1 00:00:28,830 --> 00:00:14,910 [Music] 2 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:31,830 so 3 00:01:13,830 --> 00:01:10,830 [Music] 4 00:01:52,830 --> 00:01:13,840 so 5 00:01:52,840 --> 00:02:13,980 uh 6 00:02:13,990 --> 00:02:34,830 [Music] 7 00:03:48,149 --> 00:02:36,460 do 8 00:03:51,830 --> 00:03:50,309 hey everyone welcome to the offer hub 9 00:03:54,149 --> 00:03:51,840 live stream so today 10 00:03:56,550 --> 00:03:54,159 is going to be open lines and i hope you 11 00:03:56,869 --> 00:03:56,560 join me on telegram and dial in and call 12 00:03:59,910 --> 00:03:56,879 and 13 00:04:01,750 --> 00:03:59,920 tell me your story but um for those who 14 00:04:03,110 --> 00:04:01,760 again might have expected a guest i'm 15 00:04:06,229 --> 00:04:03,120 sorry there's no guest today 16 00:04:07,509 --> 00:04:06,239 i'm simply hanging out online and uh 17 00:04:09,589 --> 00:04:07,519 whoever would like to share their 18 00:04:11,429 --> 00:04:09,599 stories they can do it over telegram 19 00:04:13,990 --> 00:04:11,439 or i might just catch up with uh with 20 00:04:15,429 --> 00:04:14,000 the group and in the chat itself but 21 00:04:19,110 --> 00:04:15,439 yeah it's uh simply just 22 00:04:19,990 --> 00:04:19,120 um hanging out uh kind of like an online 23 00:04:21,749 --> 00:04:20,000 meeting 24 00:04:23,030 --> 00:04:21,759 instead of you know being able to meet 25 00:04:24,310 --> 00:04:23,040 in person not just 26 00:04:26,870 --> 00:04:24,320 because of what's going on with the 27 00:04:27,270 --> 00:04:26,880 virus but people all over the world 28 00:04:29,270 --> 00:04:27,280 which 29 00:04:31,110 --> 00:04:29,280 i'm glad they're they managed to tune in 30 00:04:32,070 --> 00:04:31,120 even though it's very really late there 31 00:04:34,629 --> 00:04:32,080 whatever it may be 32 00:04:36,150 --> 00:04:34,639 europe australia whatever but um at 33 00:04:38,629 --> 00:04:36,160 least it's kind of like a little 34 00:04:39,510 --> 00:04:38,639 corner of the internet for you know for 35 00:04:41,830 --> 00:04:39,520 all the 36 00:04:42,870 --> 00:04:41,840 ufologists and and people with with 37 00:04:45,030 --> 00:04:42,880 experiences and 38 00:04:46,790 --> 00:04:45,040 whatever it might be whether it's ghosts 39 00:04:50,070 --> 00:04:46,800 ufos you name it 40 00:04:52,230 --> 00:04:50,080 so yeah i um i originally i 41 00:04:54,230 --> 00:04:52,240 usually don't have a topic that i would 42 00:04:56,550 --> 00:04:54,240 like to start out with because 43 00:04:58,469 --> 00:04:56,560 you know anything is pretty much open 44 00:04:59,909 --> 00:04:58,479 and uh for those that they'll call in 45 00:05:01,670 --> 00:04:59,919 and to share their stories again you can 46 00:05:02,550 --> 00:05:01,680 cover whatever topic you like and we'll 47 00:05:04,629 --> 00:05:02,560 talk about that 48 00:05:05,590 --> 00:05:04,639 but i specifically wanted to to start 49 00:05:07,749 --> 00:05:05,600 out with with 50 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:07,759 something that i just kind of labeled it 51 00:05:12,469 --> 00:05:09,520 uh don't be misled 52 00:05:13,270 --> 00:05:12,479 and um so i have a clip for you guys 53 00:05:16,230 --> 00:05:13,280 it's uh 54 00:05:18,070 --> 00:05:16,240 uh from very i guess my top five 55 00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:18,080 comedians of all time which is bill 56 00:05:21,029 --> 00:05:18,720 hicks 57 00:05:22,150 --> 00:05:21,039 and um i guess i'll i'll start out with 58 00:05:24,550 --> 00:05:22,160 that and 59 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:24,560 then we'll take it from there it'll kind 60 00:05:27,110 --> 00:05:25,440 of 61 00:05:30,070 --> 00:05:27,120 set the stage for me for what i would 62 00:05:41,510 --> 00:05:30,080 like to talk about next 63 00:05:51,590 --> 00:05:44,710 okay so 64 00:05:55,990 --> 00:05:54,790 well so what i wanted to basically to to 65 00:05:59,029 --> 00:05:56,000 talk about 66 00:06:01,990 --> 00:05:59,039 is that a lot of times when people often 67 00:06:02,950 --> 00:06:02,000 ask me about contact with with aliens or 68 00:06:05,350 --> 00:06:02,960 what do you do 69 00:06:06,790 --> 00:06:05,360 and and so i basically break it down 70 00:06:08,870 --> 00:06:06,800 that it all starts out with your 71 00:06:11,270 --> 00:06:08,880 your beliefs your belief system it's 72 00:06:13,430 --> 00:06:11,280 basically basically that i mean 73 00:06:14,550 --> 00:06:13,440 i'll be saying that until the day i die 74 00:06:17,670 --> 00:06:14,560 you know it's it's 75 00:06:20,070 --> 00:06:17,680 uh if you do not understand how basic 76 00:06:21,749 --> 00:06:20,080 the beginnings are i don't know how much 77 00:06:24,629 --> 00:06:21,759 more i can break it down to you 78 00:06:26,629 --> 00:06:24,639 because it's the most basics of actions 79 00:06:27,430 --> 00:06:26,639 that you need to start taking on your 80 00:06:29,590 --> 00:06:27,440 own 81 00:06:31,270 --> 00:06:29,600 otherwise it doesn't matter i can say 82 00:06:33,430 --> 00:06:31,280 things in a complicated way but 83 00:06:34,309 --> 00:06:33,440 if you do not take any steps forward if 84 00:06:36,469 --> 00:06:34,319 you do not 85 00:06:38,150 --> 00:06:36,479 do something for yourself you're still 86 00:06:40,950 --> 00:06:38,160 going to be right to where you left off 87 00:06:42,390 --> 00:06:40,960 uh for whatever whenever you're started 88 00:06:45,990 --> 00:06:42,400 and so 89 00:06:46,790 --> 00:06:46,000 a lot of times these these um working on 90 00:06:49,110 --> 00:06:46,800 on yourself 91 00:06:50,070 --> 00:06:49,120 and and looking at every belief system 92 00:06:51,909 --> 00:06:50,080 and and 93 00:06:53,350 --> 00:06:51,919 analyzing and seeing what pushes your 94 00:06:55,990 --> 00:06:53,360 buttons and why 95 00:06:57,350 --> 00:06:56,000 and kind of following down this little 96 00:06:59,510 --> 00:06:57,360 path to figure out 97 00:07:00,710 --> 00:06:59,520 okay this makes you angry why this makes 98 00:07:04,070 --> 00:07:00,720 you happy why 99 00:07:06,550 --> 00:07:04,080 you know and so that 100 00:07:07,909 --> 00:07:06,560 is not just there to you can resolve 101 00:07:10,390 --> 00:07:07,919 some energies and 102 00:07:11,270 --> 00:07:10,400 and be more energetically open to have 103 00:07:13,189 --> 00:07:11,280 contact 104 00:07:14,950 --> 00:07:13,199 but it also has a lot to do with what 105 00:07:16,150 --> 00:07:14,960 bill hicks was talking about regarding 106 00:07:19,749 --> 00:07:16,160 news itself 107 00:07:22,230 --> 00:07:19,759 and um especially when when you 108 00:07:24,150 --> 00:07:22,240 have spent a great deal of time working 109 00:07:26,629 --> 00:07:24,160 on all the things that that you feel 110 00:07:28,469 --> 00:07:26,639 like are painful in your life that are 111 00:07:30,469 --> 00:07:28,479 or constantly barriers whether it would 112 00:07:33,110 --> 00:07:30,479 be social anxiety 113 00:07:34,309 --> 00:07:33,120 would it be whatever you name it the 114 00:07:39,110 --> 00:07:34,319 point here is that 115 00:07:42,790 --> 00:07:39,120 it also by knowing yourself 116 00:07:45,670 --> 00:07:42,800 you are not easily misled because 117 00:07:46,790 --> 00:07:45,680 when you are this this ball of emotions 118 00:07:49,270 --> 00:07:46,800 that just constantly 119 00:07:50,869 --> 00:07:49,280 lashes out at anything that that that 120 00:07:52,950 --> 00:07:50,879 makes you angry that 121 00:07:54,869 --> 00:07:52,960 that um you know gets you frustrated 122 00:07:57,749 --> 00:07:54,879 that that really gets you going 123 00:07:57,990 --> 00:07:57,759 if you open yourself up to be constantly 124 00:07:59,909 --> 00:07:58,000 be 125 00:08:01,110 --> 00:07:59,919 led by the nose by anyone you know it 126 00:08:02,230 --> 00:08:01,120 doesn't matter who it is your 127 00:08:05,589 --> 00:08:02,240 politicians 128 00:08:07,589 --> 00:08:05,599 news you name it but when you know 129 00:08:11,029 --> 00:08:07,599 yourself when you get to the state 130 00:08:14,150 --> 00:08:11,039 um of of just this inner work 131 00:08:17,830 --> 00:08:14,160 it has this profound effect to where 132 00:08:18,230 --> 00:08:17,840 um whatever you hear sometimes it has a 133 00:08:21,270 --> 00:08:18,240 very 134 00:08:23,510 --> 00:08:21,280 variance between it can be as obvious as 135 00:08:25,510 --> 00:08:23,520 my 13 year old you know trying to use 136 00:08:27,110 --> 00:08:25,520 you know reverse psychology thinking 137 00:08:28,550 --> 00:08:27,120 he's the only one that's ever come up 138 00:08:30,469 --> 00:08:28,560 with this idea and 139 00:08:31,990 --> 00:08:30,479 you know the adults would never figure 140 00:08:35,269 --> 00:08:32,000 this out you know 141 00:08:37,430 --> 00:08:35,279 to just even when it's not that apparent 142 00:08:39,509 --> 00:08:37,440 it's like this subtle but constant 143 00:08:41,750 --> 00:08:39,519 feeling to where you go this is wrong 144 00:08:43,990 --> 00:08:41,760 i don't know what i don't know why but 145 00:08:44,710 --> 00:08:44,000 i'm gonna go down the route to to find 146 00:08:48,310 --> 00:08:44,720 it 147 00:08:51,430 --> 00:08:48,320 heart tells you 148 00:08:51,910 --> 00:08:51,440 and so knowing yourself will give you 149 00:08:54,070 --> 00:08:51,920 that 150 00:08:56,389 --> 00:08:54,080 this tool to where you're not constantly 151 00:08:58,389 --> 00:08:56,399 reacting but now you're acting 152 00:08:59,990 --> 00:08:58,399 on whatever information you're given 153 00:09:02,070 --> 00:09:00,000 whatever it is that you're facing with 154 00:09:03,350 --> 00:09:02,080 and like i said it can be that obvious 155 00:09:05,269 --> 00:09:03,360 to where you just look at them 156 00:09:07,030 --> 00:09:05,279 like these people are lying to me you 157 00:09:09,269 --> 00:09:07,040 know and to 158 00:09:10,230 --> 00:09:09,279 i'm not exactly sure there's something 159 00:09:12,550 --> 00:09:10,240 wrong here 160 00:09:13,590 --> 00:09:12,560 but now i know i need to go and look 161 00:09:15,590 --> 00:09:13,600 further into this 162 00:09:17,269 --> 00:09:15,600 because it's just gonna drive you nuts 163 00:09:17,910 --> 00:09:17,279 you know because you will constantly 164 00:09:20,790 --> 00:09:17,920 have this 165 00:09:21,190 --> 00:09:20,800 this fortification to where you know you 166 00:09:25,910 --> 00:09:21,200 know 167 00:09:27,829 --> 00:09:25,920 obvious things like don't kill 168 00:09:29,590 --> 00:09:27,839 you know things like don't lie at least 169 00:09:32,949 --> 00:09:29,600 most people have that in their heart 170 00:09:34,630 --> 00:09:32,959 you know and um whenever somebody 171 00:09:36,230 --> 00:09:34,640 tries to sell you something trust to 172 00:09:38,150 --> 00:09:36,240 tell you something on the news 173 00:09:40,150 --> 00:09:38,160 and tries to convince you of something 174 00:09:43,430 --> 00:09:40,160 um again 175 00:09:45,190 --> 00:09:43,440 depends on how tricky or how complicated 176 00:09:47,350 --> 00:09:45,200 they tried to convey to you 177 00:09:48,870 --> 00:09:47,360 you still know that truth and so you're 178 00:09:51,350 --> 00:09:48,880 just kind of sifting through 179 00:09:52,790 --> 00:09:51,360 all that bs that you got to get to until 180 00:09:55,670 --> 00:09:52,800 you get to the bottom of it 181 00:09:57,430 --> 00:09:55,680 and so you know when when i was going 182 00:10:00,230 --> 00:09:57,440 through the stuff you know between the 183 00:10:02,470 --> 00:10:00,240 uh more intensely and and heavily 184 00:10:06,310 --> 00:10:02,480 between the 2010 2015 185 00:10:08,870 --> 00:10:06,320 time i just literally cut out 186 00:10:10,790 --> 00:10:08,880 tv out of my life and i had i had 187 00:10:13,590 --> 00:10:10,800 televisions but 188 00:10:14,710 --> 00:10:13,600 i had to specifically choose what i 189 00:10:17,990 --> 00:10:14,720 wanted to watch 190 00:10:20,069 --> 00:10:18,000 so for example you know i would um 191 00:10:22,630 --> 00:10:20,079 remember a movie you know that i that i 192 00:10:25,350 --> 00:10:22,640 liked and or whatever you know whatever 193 00:10:26,710 --> 00:10:25,360 a show or whatever might come up and uh 194 00:10:27,910 --> 00:10:26,720 close to where i used to live in 195 00:10:30,230 --> 00:10:27,920 robertsville missouri 196 00:10:33,110 --> 00:10:30,240 i used to have or they still do have a 197 00:10:35,430 --> 00:10:33,120 flea market where they sold dvds and vhs 198 00:10:37,750 --> 00:10:35,440 tapes for 50 cents so i would just go 199 00:10:39,590 --> 00:10:37,760 there and just buy them up you know for 200 00:10:40,949 --> 00:10:39,600 you know ten dollars to get some great 201 00:10:43,509 --> 00:10:40,959 movies some some 202 00:10:45,430 --> 00:10:43,519 obviously have seen some were new to me 203 00:10:47,430 --> 00:10:45,440 but it was a choice to say 204 00:10:48,949 --> 00:10:47,440 i would like to watch this you know i 205 00:10:52,069 --> 00:10:48,959 would like to see this 206 00:10:53,750 --> 00:10:52,079 and and you kind of um go 207 00:10:55,990 --> 00:10:53,760 after this feeling that you have in your 208 00:10:58,150 --> 00:10:56,000 heart that if i do this this will bring 209 00:11:00,230 --> 00:10:58,160 me joy i love to watch you comedy or i 210 00:11:03,670 --> 00:11:00,240 want to watch a drama or whatever it is 211 00:11:05,990 --> 00:11:03,680 and so the the idea is that you're not 212 00:11:06,870 --> 00:11:06,000 constantly sitting back and just being 213 00:11:08,870 --> 00:11:06,880 inundated 214 00:11:10,150 --> 00:11:08,880 with whatever is you know coming at you 215 00:11:12,470 --> 00:11:10,160 whatever commercials 216 00:11:13,350 --> 00:11:12,480 you know because sometimes within a five 217 00:11:15,990 --> 00:11:13,360 um 218 00:11:17,670 --> 00:11:16,000 uh five minute span you you know you go 219 00:11:19,269 --> 00:11:17,680 anywhere from depends on how long they 220 00:11:21,190 --> 00:11:19,279 are they can be 15 seconds 221 00:11:22,550 --> 00:11:21,200 30 seconds a whole minute so you can 222 00:11:25,750 --> 00:11:22,560 have 10 different commercials 223 00:11:26,710 --> 00:11:25,760 just you know slamming in your psyche 224 00:11:28,389 --> 00:11:26,720 all the time 225 00:11:30,389 --> 00:11:28,399 you know and uh you know you're done 226 00:11:32,310 --> 00:11:30,399 watching a movie you just go like i just 227 00:11:35,910 --> 00:11:32,320 feel like getting mcdonald's you know 228 00:11:39,110 --> 00:11:35,920 and you have no idea why and um uh 229 00:11:41,509 --> 00:11:39,120 it's it's all comes down to this uh 230 00:11:43,509 --> 00:11:41,519 by by you not being aware but you not 231 00:11:45,750 --> 00:11:43,519 being a conscious observer 232 00:11:47,350 --> 00:11:45,760 you know by just simply saying life is 233 00:11:48,710 --> 00:11:47,360 too hard i just want to relax i don't 234 00:11:51,190 --> 00:11:48,720 want to do much i'll just 235 00:11:53,350 --> 00:11:51,200 let let's you know inundate me whatever 236 00:11:55,590 --> 00:11:53,360 is out there you know just for fun 237 00:11:56,389 --> 00:11:55,600 you are basically just putting your 238 00:11:59,030 --> 00:11:56,399 guard down 239 00:11:59,590 --> 00:11:59,040 being allowed to just anything to seep 240 00:12:01,269 --> 00:11:59,600 through 241 00:12:03,110 --> 00:12:01,279 to where now you have more things that 242 00:12:05,269 --> 00:12:03,120 you have to figure out why 243 00:12:07,350 --> 00:12:05,279 do you have these you know urges why do 244 00:12:10,310 --> 00:12:07,360 you have you know these certain thoughts 245 00:12:10,790 --> 00:12:10,320 because you didn't realize that all the 246 00:12:12,069 --> 00:12:10,800 ads 247 00:12:14,230 --> 00:12:12,079 everything you're watching is a 248 00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:14,240 suggestion and so if you 249 00:12:18,310 --> 00:12:16,160 simply want to relax and watch that 250 00:12:21,190 --> 00:12:18,320 stuff you're then a lot more 251 00:12:21,829 --> 00:12:21,200 easily easily convinced of something to 252 00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:21,839 make a 253 00:12:25,430 --> 00:12:23,519 irrational purchase whether you need it 254 00:12:27,350 --> 00:12:25,440 or not and so 255 00:12:28,710 --> 00:12:27,360 i wanted to to just kind of briefly 256 00:12:31,829 --> 00:12:28,720 touch on that to 257 00:12:32,230 --> 00:12:31,839 at least make you aware of it if unless 258 00:12:36,790 --> 00:12:32,240 you know 259 00:12:39,590 --> 00:12:36,800 and unless you haven't been already that 260 00:12:40,790 --> 00:12:39,600 it's it can be difficult sometime but 261 00:12:44,790 --> 00:12:40,800 you have to try 262 00:12:46,550 --> 00:12:44,800 to be an actual participant in your life 263 00:12:47,990 --> 00:12:46,560 instead of just uh going through the 264 00:12:51,430 --> 00:12:48,000 mundane day-to-day 265 00:12:53,430 --> 00:12:51,440 let me just you know scoot through work 266 00:12:55,750 --> 00:12:53,440 because i don't want to be here let me 267 00:12:57,990 --> 00:12:55,760 um just sit here because i'm too tired 268 00:13:00,069 --> 00:12:58,000 to think so let's just watch whatever 269 00:13:01,670 --> 00:13:00,079 you know and um when you take that 270 00:13:03,990 --> 00:13:01,680 active role in your life 271 00:13:05,430 --> 00:13:04,000 not only now are you building yourself 272 00:13:08,710 --> 00:13:05,440 up brand new 273 00:13:11,030 --> 00:13:08,720 but you're also now more aware of 274 00:13:12,310 --> 00:13:11,040 what is kind of misaligning you with 275 00:13:15,269 --> 00:13:12,320 what you really want 276 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:15,279 you know why are you more depressed why 277 00:13:19,509 --> 00:13:16,639 you know are you 278 00:13:20,870 --> 00:13:19,519 more likely to want to sit there and 279 00:13:23,430 --> 00:13:20,880 watch something and 280 00:13:24,069 --> 00:13:23,440 and eat as opposed to going out to do 281 00:13:26,550 --> 00:13:24,079 something 282 00:13:27,750 --> 00:13:26,560 that would actually be more physically 283 00:13:30,310 --> 00:13:27,760 productive for you 284 00:13:31,350 --> 00:13:30,320 but also you know more worth of an 285 00:13:34,470 --> 00:13:31,360 experience 286 00:13:35,430 --> 00:13:34,480 so this topic we don't necessarily have 287 00:13:37,829 --> 00:13:35,440 to discuss this 288 00:13:38,710 --> 00:13:37,839 if you are on telegram and would like to 289 00:13:40,550 --> 00:13:38,720 share whatever 290 00:13:42,870 --> 00:13:40,560 it is that you want to share that's fine 291 00:13:45,350 --> 00:13:42,880 but i just wanted to 292 00:13:46,230 --> 00:13:45,360 to go over that with you and and 293 00:13:48,230 --> 00:13:46,240 especially now 294 00:13:49,990 --> 00:13:48,240 with whatever we're being told in the 295 00:13:52,230 --> 00:13:50,000 news and i think 296 00:13:53,350 --> 00:13:52,240 last week i forgot when i exactly 297 00:13:54,710 --> 00:13:53,360 mentioned i think it might have been 298 00:13:57,750 --> 00:13:54,720 last open lines 299 00:13:59,509 --> 00:13:57,760 to where we 300 00:14:01,990 --> 00:13:59,519 you know especially when it comes to the 301 00:14:02,470 --> 00:14:02,000 ufology and the ufo community would 302 00:14:04,949 --> 00:14:02,480 never 303 00:14:06,150 --> 00:14:04,959 have been told the truth by governments 304 00:14:08,949 --> 00:14:06,160 you know and um 305 00:14:09,829 --> 00:14:08,959 that always you know left us uh looking 306 00:14:12,470 --> 00:14:09,839 at all the 307 00:14:13,910 --> 00:14:12,480 you know all the um subliminal messaging 308 00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:13,920 you know looking all the things they're 309 00:14:18,629 --> 00:14:16,240 not saying they're not telling us 310 00:14:20,230 --> 00:14:18,639 and so and of course it unfortunately 311 00:14:22,069 --> 00:14:20,240 developed into all these different kind 312 00:14:25,110 --> 00:14:22,079 of conspiracy theories because 313 00:14:25,750 --> 00:14:25,120 you know we want to know more so we try 314 00:14:29,189 --> 00:14:25,760 to 315 00:14:31,590 --> 00:14:29,199 an authority you you 316 00:14:33,269 --> 00:14:31,600 fill in that gap with whatever it is and 317 00:14:35,350 --> 00:14:33,279 it makes you more prone to 318 00:14:36,310 --> 00:14:35,360 have it be whatever you know no matter 319 00:14:39,189 --> 00:14:36,320 how absurd 320 00:14:41,110 --> 00:14:39,199 sometimes it might sound and um and then 321 00:14:41,509 --> 00:14:41,120 it just confuses you more and then you 322 00:14:43,110 --> 00:14:41,519 have 323 00:14:44,710 --> 00:14:43,120 you know this person believes in this 324 00:14:47,910 --> 00:14:44,720 this person believes in that 325 00:14:50,150 --> 00:14:47,920 and so um 326 00:14:51,990 --> 00:14:50,160 especially during this time when you 327 00:14:55,509 --> 00:14:52,000 when you are not 328 00:14:57,670 --> 00:14:55,519 you know given information about ufos 329 00:14:59,189 --> 00:14:57,680 you know by the government especially if 330 00:15:01,670 --> 00:14:59,199 you're not given 331 00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:01,680 all the information about 911 especially 332 00:15:03,590 --> 00:15:03,279 if you're not given all the information 333 00:15:05,990 --> 00:15:03,600 about 334 00:15:07,269 --> 00:15:06,000 kovit you know all the things that's 335 00:15:09,750 --> 00:15:07,279 when you need to 336 00:15:10,629 --> 00:15:09,760 you know fortify yourself even more to 337 00:15:12,790 --> 00:15:10,639 know who you are 338 00:15:13,829 --> 00:15:12,800 to get in touch with yourself and 339 00:15:16,069 --> 00:15:13,839 basically 340 00:15:16,870 --> 00:15:16,079 work through whatever difficulties 341 00:15:20,550 --> 00:15:16,880 whatever 342 00:15:23,189 --> 00:15:20,560 create your fears 343 00:15:24,470 --> 00:15:23,199 to basically work on that so then when 344 00:15:27,350 --> 00:15:24,480 you're your own person 345 00:15:28,389 --> 00:15:27,360 you you don't need anyone else anyone 346 00:15:30,870 --> 00:15:28,399 else can't miss 347 00:15:32,230 --> 00:15:30,880 you know can't uh mislead you because 348 00:15:34,850 --> 00:15:32,240 you know different 349 00:15:36,230 --> 00:15:34,860 you know and at least um 350 00:15:38,790 --> 00:15:36,240 [Music] 351 00:15:39,509 --> 00:15:38,800 you you are basically are using it as a 352 00:15:42,629 --> 00:15:39,519 tool 353 00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:42,639 to just be used whenever you need it as 354 00:15:45,910 --> 00:15:44,320 opposed to just kind of helplessly 355 00:15:47,269 --> 00:15:45,920 sitting back and just allowing all the 356 00:15:48,870 --> 00:15:47,279 different news and 357 00:15:50,310 --> 00:15:48,880 different people just constantly pushing 358 00:15:52,470 --> 00:15:50,320 your buttons and you're angry here and 359 00:15:55,269 --> 00:15:52,480 you angry there and you're lashing out 360 00:15:56,230 --> 00:15:55,279 at whatever it is whether whatever is 361 00:15:58,069 --> 00:15:56,240 going on at 362 00:15:59,590 --> 00:15:58,079 what a politician might have said or 363 00:16:01,430 --> 00:15:59,600 what's going on on the streets of 364 00:16:02,150 --> 00:16:01,440 america or anywhere else in the world 365 00:16:04,389 --> 00:16:02,160 just 366 00:16:06,629 --> 00:16:04,399 look at it and and you'll see plenty out 367 00:16:09,910 --> 00:16:06,639 there you know and um 368 00:16:10,790 --> 00:16:09,920 so anyway just uh just a little reminder 369 00:16:13,509 --> 00:16:10,800 a little nudge 370 00:16:14,790 --> 00:16:13,519 hoping that you you see and understand 371 00:16:18,069 --> 00:16:14,800 what i'm trying to tell you 372 00:16:20,629 --> 00:16:18,079 to simply start working more on 373 00:16:22,069 --> 00:16:20,639 who is it that you want to be who what 374 00:16:24,230 --> 00:16:22,079 is the best version that you 375 00:16:25,910 --> 00:16:24,240 can imagine yourself to be and then 376 00:16:29,030 --> 00:16:25,920 strive towards that 377 00:16:30,949 --> 00:16:29,040 you know and and you will you it would 378 00:16:33,829 --> 00:16:30,959 be a life well spent 379 00:16:35,269 --> 00:16:33,839 by simply by simply doing yourself that 380 00:16:38,069 --> 00:16:35,279 that service 381 00:16:38,389 --> 00:16:38,079 so anyway that's as far as i wanted to 382 00:16:41,990 --> 00:16:38,399 talk 383 00:16:44,550 --> 00:16:42,000 regarding that let me i guess switch 384 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:49,110 to chat to see who else is there 385 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,310 and then also 386 00:16:57,110 --> 00:16:55,509 switch back to the voice chat 387 00:16:58,870 --> 00:16:57,120 uh right now we're just uh we have 388 00:17:00,790 --> 00:16:58,880 nathan i don't know if nathan wanted to 389 00:17:01,910 --> 00:17:00,800 talk about anything or say anything i'm 390 00:17:05,429 --> 00:17:01,920 sure he'll raise it 391 00:17:08,789 --> 00:17:05,439 raise his hand up so they'll let me know 392 00:17:12,870 --> 00:17:08,799 that he wants to talk but 393 00:17:20,390 --> 00:17:16,949 fabricia welcome jim welcome 394 00:17:26,870 --> 00:17:23,990 yes so um um bug 395 00:17:27,909 --> 00:17:26,880 hi how are you thanks for joining us all 396 00:17:30,830 --> 00:17:27,919 right let me see what 397 00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:30,840 uh what nathan would like to talk about 398 00:17:35,110 --> 00:17:33,120 today 399 00:17:36,310 --> 00:17:35,120 okay nathan you're unmuted on my end 400 00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:36,320 just move yourself 401 00:17:40,950 --> 00:17:39,520 unmute yourself on yours and you're good 402 00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:40,960 to go 403 00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:44,160 hello okay i'm on youtube um 404 00:17:47,270 --> 00:17:46,000 no i actually i didn't have much to talk 405 00:17:49,830 --> 00:17:47,280 about but uh 406 00:17:50,950 --> 00:17:49,840 uh from from my little interface here i 407 00:17:53,750 --> 00:17:50,960 thought i thought 408 00:17:54,870 --> 00:17:53,760 um i was the only one here so actually i 409 00:17:57,750 --> 00:17:54,880 just so i just finished 410 00:18:00,549 --> 00:17:57,760 re-reading dolores cannon's three waves 411 00:18:02,549 --> 00:18:00,559 of volunteers in the new earth um 412 00:18:04,070 --> 00:18:02,559 and then and then and then i and and 413 00:18:05,190 --> 00:18:04,080 several things were pointing me towards 414 00:18:07,350 --> 00:18:05,200 uh i don't know if you guys have ever 415 00:18:09,909 --> 00:18:07,360 heard the simulation hypothesis 416 00:18:11,750 --> 00:18:09,919 or it's it's you know it's the 417 00:18:13,430 --> 00:18:11,760 hypothesis that 418 00:18:14,950 --> 00:18:13,440 we're living in a simulated reality 419 00:18:16,870 --> 00:18:14,960 essentially you know it's a virtual 420 00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:16,880 reality kind of like the matrix 421 00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:18,720 um but many things were pointing me in 422 00:18:22,789 --> 00:18:21,360 that direction to read this book and 423 00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:22,799 it's fantastic 424 00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:26,880 um can you tell us a little bit about it 425 00:18:30,950 --> 00:18:28,720 sure well let me let me just read the 426 00:18:33,190 --> 00:18:30,960 synopsis on the back for you so it says 427 00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:33,200 the simulation hypothesis explores one 428 00:18:35,909 --> 00:18:34,640 of the most daring and important 429 00:18:37,669 --> 00:18:35,919 theories of our time 430 00:18:40,070 --> 00:18:37,679 that our physical reality is a part of 431 00:18:41,590 --> 00:18:40,080 an increasingly sophisticated video game 432 00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:41,600 not unlike that depicted in the movie 433 00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:43,360 the matrix in this book 434 00:18:47,029 --> 00:18:44,960 the mysteries of quantum physics the 435 00:18:48,710 --> 00:18:47,039 evolution of artificial intelligence 436 00:18:50,789 --> 00:18:48,720 video games and virtual reality are 437 00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:50,799 mixed with subjects like consciousness 438 00:18:54,070 --> 00:18:52,880 karma and the afterlife they are brought 439 00:18:55,750 --> 00:18:54,080 together into a cohesive 440 00:18:56,789 --> 00:18:55,760 information-based computer science 441 00:18:58,310 --> 00:18:56,799 framework 442 00:18:59,750 --> 00:18:58,320 whether you're a computer scientist a 443 00:19:01,350 --> 00:18:59,760 fan of science fiction a video game 444 00:19:02,150 --> 00:19:01,360 enthusiast or a speaker of spiritual 445 00:19:03,990 --> 00:19:02,160 truths 446 00:19:05,190 --> 00:19:04,000 the simulation hypothesis is for you 447 00:19:05,510 --> 00:19:05,200 you'll never look at the world the same 448 00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:05,520 way 449 00:19:08,870 --> 00:19:07,919 again now for a long time now i've 450 00:19:11,909 --> 00:19:08,880 always uh 451 00:19:12,310 --> 00:19:11,919 i've always thought that would humanity 452 00:19:14,390 --> 00:19:12,320 what 453 00:19:15,750 --> 00:19:14,400 i i couldn't ever figure out how it was 454 00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:15,760 going to happen we were all told 455 00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:17,760 that you know there's a big evolution 456 00:19:20,950 --> 00:19:19,760 happening the earth is changing like in 457 00:19:22,710 --> 00:19:20,960 dolores cannons booked the three waves 458 00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:22,720 of volunteers in the new earth and 459 00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:24,400 many other work they talk about a new 460 00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:26,000 earth happening and 461 00:19:29,110 --> 00:19:27,840 and uh and i'm thinking you know how is 462 00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:29,120 that how are we gonna reach 463 00:19:32,470 --> 00:19:30,960 a critical mass and and that's what it 464 00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:32,480 was it was like in my mind i always 465 00:19:34,789 --> 00:19:33,840 thought we had to reach a critical mass 466 00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:34,799 a certain 467 00:19:38,549 --> 00:19:37,120 number of humans like like you mentioned 468 00:19:40,150 --> 00:19:38,559 that need to turn off the tv that are 469 00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:40,160 not interested in being programmed but 470 00:19:45,029 --> 00:19:42,400 are interested in being co-creators 471 00:19:46,150 --> 00:19:45,039 and and all of a sudden and we needed so 472 00:19:48,710 --> 00:19:46,160 i always 473 00:19:49,190 --> 00:19:48,720 postulated that that would happen like 474 00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:49,200 if 475 00:19:53,830 --> 00:19:52,000 in the 100th monkey uh 100th monkey 476 00:19:55,590 --> 00:19:53,840 scenario and and 477 00:19:56,950 --> 00:19:55,600 would you like does i guess everybody 478 00:19:58,630 --> 00:19:56,960 listening probably knows what that is 479 00:20:00,230 --> 00:19:58,640 or should i you can still explain it 480 00:20:01,350 --> 00:20:00,240 just in case something somebody doesn't 481 00:20:02,870 --> 00:20:01,360 know 482 00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:02,880 there was uh it's actually some 483 00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:04,880 controversy over how authentic 484 00:20:08,149 --> 00:20:07,039 authentic the actual experiment was but 485 00:20:10,149 --> 00:20:08,159 essentially it comes right down to it 486 00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:10,159 there was a chain of islands 487 00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:13,280 and uh inhabited by monkeys and 488 00:20:17,029 --> 00:20:15,280 they and the monkeys depended on a 489 00:20:20,070 --> 00:20:17,039 particular root or fruit 490 00:20:23,190 --> 00:20:20,080 that uh that was their main food source 491 00:20:25,270 --> 00:20:23,200 and like as much as 50 492 00:20:27,270 --> 00:20:25,280 of the the fruit or their food source 493 00:20:29,909 --> 00:20:27,280 would be wasted because the monkeys 494 00:20:31,110 --> 00:20:29,919 uh didn't know how to wash it uh they 495 00:20:32,230 --> 00:20:31,120 taught the monkeys how to wash it and 496 00:20:34,230 --> 00:20:32,240 then they could eat more of the 497 00:20:35,350 --> 00:20:34,240 more of the food they one monkey they 498 00:20:36,549 --> 00:20:35,360 taught one monkey they taught a group of 499 00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:36,559 monkeys those monkeys taught more 500 00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:37,919 monkeys and those monkeys other monkeys 501 00:20:40,549 --> 00:20:38,720 taught more monkeys 502 00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:40,559 and after a certain critical mass was 503 00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:42,480 reached all of a sudden all the other 504 00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:43,760 monkeys on the other on the other 505 00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:45,360 islands in that chain 506 00:20:50,149 --> 00:20:47,120 knew how to wash the fruit and benefit 507 00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:51,909 without ever being in contact with one 508 00:20:57,909 --> 00:20:53,520 another 509 00:21:02,870 --> 00:21:00,230 hold on my phone keeps flipping from 510 00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:02,880 side view to regular my finger falls off 511 00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:04,000 okay yeah you're breaking you're 512 00:21:09,270 --> 00:21:06,720 breaking up too i'm breaking up 513 00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:09,280 okay you clear it now i guess yeah go 514 00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:10,559 ahead 515 00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:13,120 okay so so the way i thought was 516 00:21:15,029 --> 00:21:14,480 thinking that must relate because i was 517 00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:15,039 uh 518 00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:17,120 also a big fan of the law one material 519 00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:18,400 raw by raw 520 00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:21,600 uh and and i thought well obviously if 521 00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:22,960 people if everybody knew 522 00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:25,280 just like inherently that we're all one 523 00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:26,640 like which a lot of the 524 00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:28,559 the ufology material and says that you 525 00:21:31,669 --> 00:21:30,480 know other on other planets and other 526 00:21:33,270 --> 00:21:31,679 cultures and other civilizations 527 00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:33,280 throughout the galaxy just they never 528 00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:35,200 forget that yet this is why this is such 529 00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:36,640 a great and awesome experiment here on 530 00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:37,280 earth 531 00:21:40,630 --> 00:21:39,440 is because we do forget that yet we are 532 00:21:42,149 --> 00:21:40,640 all still heading towards the same 533 00:21:44,549 --> 00:21:42,159 direction back to source 534 00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:44,559 even though when we were born we're 535 00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:46,080 we've completely forgot 536 00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:49,280 um so if if if at some point enough of 537 00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:49,840 us 538 00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:52,400 innately know like know it truly that 539 00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:53,840 we're we're all one 540 00:21:58,390 --> 00:21:56,559 um and then that that 100th monkey that 541 00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:58,400 critical mass is reached all of a sudden 542 00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:59,520 everybody would knew can you imagine how 543 00:22:02,149 --> 00:22:00,799 great that moment would be and i always 544 00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:02,159 imagined imagine me 545 00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:03,840 walking out on my front porch looking to 546 00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:05,120 the left looking to the right looking 547 00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:06,640 kind of like in that movie uh surrogates 548 00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:08,080 when they when they all realized when 549 00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:09,120 they got out of their machines and they 550 00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:10,240 walked outside and they actually started 551 00:22:13,110 --> 00:22:11,200 looking at each other 552 00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:13,120 for the first time it would be like that 553 00:22:16,390 --> 00:22:14,320 we'd all be like wow 554 00:22:17,830 --> 00:22:16,400 we're all one why why are we listening 555 00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:17,840 to these on the tv why are we 556 00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:18,960 fighting why are we 557 00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:20,240 you know doing all this silly stuff 558 00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:22,000 we're all one let's let's let's help 559 00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:22,960 each other let's look 560 00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:24,320 and right there would be a quantum leap 561 00:22:28,549 --> 00:22:26,559 we would we would evolve 562 00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:28,559 instantaneously to that that fifth 563 00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:30,159 dimension reality that were promised you 564 00:22:32,549 --> 00:22:30,960 know the the 565 00:22:33,990 --> 00:22:32,559 heaven on earth the golden age all those 566 00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:34,000 whatever whatever 567 00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:36,240 you know philosophy you uh subscribe to 568 00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:38,080 they've got some version of it 569 00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:40,960 um and and so anyway recently here they 570 00:22:45,669 --> 00:22:42,320 was pointing me towards this high 571 00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:45,679 uh uh simulation hypothesis now i was 572 00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:46,080 wondering 573 00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:49,600 reach that critical mass yeah yes like 574 00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:51,520 groups like this really help conferences 575 00:22:53,750 --> 00:22:53,200 help books help just talking to people 576 00:22:55,110 --> 00:22:53,760 helping 577 00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:55,120 just having that energy and being 578 00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:56,880 present around other people 579 00:22:59,909 --> 00:22:58,080 you know you're carrying that energy of 580 00:23:02,789 --> 00:22:59,919 love and peace and oneness with you 581 00:23:03,110 --> 00:23:02,799 it it it helps just being with people 582 00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:03,120 but 583 00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:05,200 um what if what if and this is just me 584 00:23:08,230 --> 00:23:06,320 thinking hypothetically 585 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:08,240 you know some i just got the playstation 586 00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:09,760 5 and i'm playing i'm like oh my gosh 587 00:23:13,909 --> 00:23:12,080 this is so realistic it's almost like 588 00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:13,919 you know i i actually i stopped using my 589 00:23:17,190 --> 00:23:15,360 glasses to play because i thought the 590 00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:17,200 gore was too realistic i was like oh man 591 00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:18,960 i don't want to see it that clearly 592 00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:21,280 and and but what if the same thing 593 00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:22,640 happens but you know it's not 594 00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:25,039 not used to gore and be gross and and 595 00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:26,400 show violence but 596 00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:29,600 it just gets so real that that 597 00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:31,440 people start thinking well if we can 598 00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:33,600 make a virtual reality this real 599 00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:35,200 what's to say this isn't a bursary 600 00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:36,640 what's to say there isn't something 601 00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:38,000 greater out there that's even that's 602 00:23:40,789 --> 00:23:39,679 already been capable of this what 603 00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:40,799 and then you got people starting to 604 00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:42,240 ponder basically they exist their nature 605 00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:43,360 their existence and god 606 00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:44,480 that right there because there's so many 607 00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:46,320 people that just simply aren't they are 608 00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:46,799 just 609 00:23:50,230 --> 00:23:49,039 uh turning the boob tube on and and 610 00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:50,240 going you know 611 00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:52,240 not not thinking leaving others to do 612 00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:53,600 their thinking for them living life 613 00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:54,799 passively 614 00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:56,960 and so i was just wondering you know if 615 00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:58,240 we if so 616 00:24:00,950 --> 00:23:59,360 we a lot of times people look at this 617 00:24:02,470 --> 00:24:00,960 technology and they're like oh it's it's 618 00:24:03,909 --> 00:24:02,480 always used for bad and it's just a 619 00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:03,919 control and it's just to distract and 620 00:24:07,510 --> 00:24:04,799 it's just a 621 00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:07,520 program you know like to to you know of 622 00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:08,400 course i you know 623 00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:09,600 all technology can be used for good and 624 00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:10,880 bad yeah i'm sitting here playing these 625 00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:12,159 video games and i'm thinking 626 00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:13,120 man they could be creating a 627 00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:14,960 psychological profile on me it's like 628 00:24:17,909 --> 00:24:15,360 well 629 00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:17,919 so what you know like i'm gonna you know 630 00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:18,799 as long as i'm 631 00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:20,559 playing with love and kindness in my 632 00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:22,159 heart and you know sharing a good time 633 00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:23,679 with friends and family over 634 00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:26,320 then the evil doers can use it for 635 00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:27,840 whatever they want it's not gonna 636 00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:30,000 have the effect they want you know but 637 00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:31,840 it just like all things like for me it 638 00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:32,880 was 9 11 639 00:24:36,549 --> 00:24:34,640 like that when when the whole and i 640 00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:36,559 thought oh if they could lie about that 641 00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:38,080 then what else can they lie about what 642 00:24:41,669 --> 00:24:39,440 else are they lying about that that was 643 00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:41,679 like by my big awakening moment you know 644 00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:44,400 was after that um you know so let's say 645 00:24:46,870 --> 00:24:45,760 they want to use this technology for bad 646 00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:46,880 and they want to create these simulated 647 00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:48,000 realities where they hope 648 00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:49,840 everybody like in the movie surrogates 649 00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:51,360 just lives their life there and like you 650 00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:52,720 know and we see it kind of being pushed 651 00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:53,840 on us now they'll get your food 652 00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:54,400 delivered 653 00:24:57,430 --> 00:24:55,440 there's a virus out there there's a 654 00:24:58,390 --> 00:24:57,440 scary invisible boogie man get 655 00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:58,400 you'll get everything delivered to your 656 00:25:01,830 --> 00:25:00,400 house work from home you know don't uh 657 00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:01,840 mingle with people and i'm sure there's 658 00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:03,039 just you know they have some 659 00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:04,880 strategy behind their reasons for doing 660 00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:06,880 that but just like everything that seems 661 00:25:10,310 --> 00:25:07,679 like that that 662 00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:10,320 is being done it it backfires you know 663 00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:11,200 and it can be 664 00:25:14,789 --> 00:25:13,200 it will be used for good and i'm just 665 00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,799 hoping this is what i'm i'm hoping is 666 00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:16,320 that the real more real that these 667 00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:17,760 simulated realities get 668 00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:19,520 the more people start to question their 669 00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:20,799 nature of existence and their 670 00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:22,559 their own realities and right there the 671 00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:23,679 more people that question the more 672 00:25:25,590 --> 00:25:24,960 people they're asking questions the more 673 00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:25,600 answers 674 00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:28,320 will start to come to light well you 675 00:25:30,789 --> 00:25:29,120 know um 676 00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:30,799 you covered a lot there i'm trying to 677 00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:32,880 figure out where where to 678 00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:36,240 where to pick pick up but um so 679 00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:39,919 um let's let's go with uh people waking 680 00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:40,880 up part okay 681 00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:44,320 so if in my my personal experience 682 00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:46,240 uh some of you already know when i had 683 00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:47,679 my near-death experience 684 00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:50,960 and um i had seen my parents and um 685 00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:53,520 you know it was all all clear all 686 00:25:57,029 --> 00:25:54,240 understood 687 00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:57,039 why why they were they were you know all 688 00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:58,400 these uh um 689 00:26:02,149 --> 00:26:01,440 pent up uh anger and and frustration all 690 00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:02,159 of that was 691 00:26:07,909 --> 00:26:05,360 immediately resolved you know and so 692 00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:07,919 when i came back i had that in mind that 693 00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:09,360 new understanding that 694 00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:11,760 oh they just did what i asked them to do 695 00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:12,400 you know 696 00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:18,960 totally new relationship with my parents 697 00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:21,520 when i went to see them and all of that 698 00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:22,799 kind of got crushed 699 00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:24,720 you know in the sense of it's still with 700 00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:26,080 me it's still there 701 00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:28,960 and i and that's what i'm looking at but 702 00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:30,240 they're not gonna be 703 00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:32,240 these different people of the sudden you 704 00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:34,000 know they made an agreement to be 705 00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:37,200 who they are to continue from from 706 00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:39,440 first day of their life to the last day 707 00:26:42,149 --> 00:26:40,320 of their life 708 00:26:44,149 --> 00:26:42,159 you know as much as i want them to just 709 00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:44,159 have the same understanding as i did 710 00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:46,240 same awakening right then and there so 711 00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:47,440 we can overcome this 712 00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:49,360 this difficulty but instead they're 713 00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:51,440 still continuing being the parents 714 00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:53,760 you know that that i knew so even though 715 00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:55,440 now i have a different understanding it 716 00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:57,919 left me with a different choice of 717 00:27:01,350 --> 00:27:00,080 okay they're not going to change because 718 00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:01,360 that's part of the agreement they're 719 00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:02,960 going to continue being who they are 720 00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:04,400 until the day they die 721 00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:06,000 now of course there's still an option 722 00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:08,159 for them to change and grow and do 723 00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:10,159 whatever it is but it's up to them 724 00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:13,200 so it was a choice on my end to where 725 00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:15,760 find i have this understanding and and i 726 00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:17,200 don't want to push it on them 727 00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:19,600 but what i can do is now approach the 728 00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:21,360 relationship with them differently 729 00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:23,279 you know and i see the same way with 730 00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:25,039 what's going on you know in the world 731 00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:25,679 now 732 00:27:29,669 --> 00:27:29,039 just hey can't you see just won't grab 733 00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:29,679 him by the 734 00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:31,440 you know by the collar and say can't you 735 00:27:34,549 --> 00:27:32,960 see what's going on can 736 00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:34,559 you know why don't you just look at this 737 00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:36,080 why don't you just you know 738 00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:38,000 do what you need to do and you have to 739 00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:39,360 understand that you know 740 00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:41,840 from again my personal opinion based on 741 00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:42,880 my experience 742 00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:44,399 you know and then you you take from it 743 00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:46,159 what you like you know 744 00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:49,600 is that we still need these people to 745 00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:53,520 be these you know on a larger scale 746 00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:56,720 to be this um 747 00:28:01,110 --> 00:27:59,520 to be this example to to the rest of us 748 00:28:01,750 --> 00:28:01,120 they're still kind of on the verge to 749 00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:01,760 say 750 00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:03,760 is this what you want or is this not 751 00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:05,919 what you want when you see the protest 752 00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:08,240 is this what you want or not when you 753 00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:09,039 see the 754 00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:11,200 the lies coming from government is this 755 00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:13,039 what you can you know want to continue 756 00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:13,760 to have 757 00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:16,080 or not and so there's all these things 758 00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:17,440 that have to happen 759 00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:19,760 in order to be the catalyst for those 760 00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:20,480 that are still 761 00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:23,440 quote-unquote asleep to finally switch 762 00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:25,120 you know to finally something 763 00:28:28,149 --> 00:28:27,360 happens like they get pushed enough in 764 00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:28,159 the corner 765 00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:31,200 to where the normal is not there anymore 766 00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:33,039 you know already i should say business 767 00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:35,200 as usual you know it's not there anymore 768 00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:36,320 so they cannot 769 00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:38,480 you know continue to just do the same 770 00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:39,600 old same old two just 771 00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:41,520 go to games going out with friends go 772 00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:43,440 play cards go to games growing up 773 00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:44,799 you know hang out with friends go play 774 00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:46,640 cards you know something is different 775 00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:47,760 something has kind of 776 00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:50,159 put a wrench in that motor work toward 777 00:28:53,909 --> 00:28:52,960 now they have to go outside of that and 778 00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:53,919 that's where it's going to be 779 00:28:56,230 --> 00:28:55,600 uncomfortable that's where they're going 780 00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:56,240 to be 781 00:29:01,269 --> 00:28:59,760 about this is different 782 00:29:03,190 --> 00:29:01,279 i don't know what to do i've never been 783 00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:03,200 here before you know and so 784 00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:05,279 all that is still kind of playing out 785 00:29:08,389 --> 00:29:07,120 worldwide now of course 786 00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:08,399 once you've been there and you've seen 787 00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:10,000 the other side you know you just want to 788 00:29:14,389 --> 00:29:12,159 be like everybody just wake up right now 789 00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:14,399 you know but as much as i would 790 00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:15,840 personally would love to 791 00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:18,880 it's still the earth does not cease to 792 00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:19,760 be a school 793 00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:21,760 it still continues being the school to 794 00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:24,320 where i do what i do with this show 795 00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:26,480 you calling in the way you called in you 796 00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:28,000 know people watching are watching 797 00:29:30,630 --> 00:29:29,120 because of there's something that 798 00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:30,640 they're searching here for 799 00:29:35,909 --> 00:29:33,840 you know and so like bit by bit everyone 800 00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:35,919 doing their part of what they can 801 00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:37,520 you know that that change will 802 00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:39,200 eventually happen but 803 00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:41,279 because of this set up school it's not 804 00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:42,640 going to immediately go like 805 00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:44,159 okay you were started first grade 806 00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:45,600 yesterday you're going to be 12th grade 807 00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:46,720 you know next day and 808 00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:48,799 congratulations you've graduated you 809 00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:50,240 know because 810 00:29:53,510 --> 00:29:52,799 uh it's the experience that adds to your 811 00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:53,520 wisdom 812 00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:55,840 and so you cannot just off the sudden 813 00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:56,799 wake up 814 00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:58,399 you know because you have to have an 815 00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:01,039 experience of something to 816 00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:03,520 to strive for an experience that that 817 00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:05,039 hurt you an experience that 818 00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:07,520 loved you and experience you know that 819 00:30:11,590 --> 00:30:08,080 basically 820 00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:11,600 drove you to to uh take these steps to 821 00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:13,279 make the improvements in your life 822 00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:15,279 only then can you witness your own 823 00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:17,039 change and who you were 824 00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:19,520 who you are now and who you can be and 825 00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:21,520 so that's my opinion regarding 826 00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:23,679 regarding the of the sudden everybody 827 00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:30,310 yeah that's very right because we're as 828 00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:32,159 much as as much as we are like a 829 00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:34,240 collective here it's also it's a very 830 00:30:39,909 --> 00:30:36,799 personal experience you know it's um 831 00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:39,919 this this school this and a choice the 832 00:30:42,389 --> 00:30:41,520 choice of that you know right and that's 833 00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:42,399 what we're sort of 834 00:30:46,630 --> 00:30:44,399 now because you can you can watch you 835 00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:46,640 know hundreds of youtube videos on 836 00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:48,960 how to program or how to use a hammer 837 00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:51,200 but un until you actually do it 838 00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:53,039 that's what adds to the richness of your 839 00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:55,440 experience you know and uh 840 00:30:59,509 --> 00:30:57,840 it's not gonna cease to exist in that 841 00:31:01,750 --> 00:30:59,519 way you know it's it's gonna 842 00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:01,760 it's still gonna continue functioning to 843 00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:03,519 where something happens 844 00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:05,440 there's a good example that bashar often 845 00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:06,640 used is called the 846 00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:10,000 water watermelon seed analogy and if you 847 00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:11,840 imagine yourself being that watermelon 848 00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:13,600 seed 849 00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:16,159 being squeezed between the thumb and 850 00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:17,120 index finger 851 00:31:21,029 --> 00:31:19,679 and you can only be between there you 852 00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:21,039 know for so long 853 00:31:24,389 --> 00:31:23,440 until finally it reaches a critical 854 00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:24,399 point to where 855 00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:26,320 you can't move forward you can't move 856 00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:28,559 backwards you can't go anywhere else 857 00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:31,360 until you squeeze so hard you know where 858 00:31:34,149 --> 00:31:32,080 it just 859 00:31:35,509 --> 00:31:34,159 shoots out in any direction possible 860 00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:35,519 just anything new 861 00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:36,799 anything different than what you've 862 00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:39,279 always done and that's what's going to 863 00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:40,960 you know some some people that's what 864 00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:42,880 they would need in order for them to 865 00:31:45,909 --> 00:31:43,679 kind of 866 00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:45,919 get out of this rut and then start 867 00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:47,279 looking into things because 868 00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:50,559 even you know every day i take that back 869 00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:52,720 not every day every so often i get 870 00:31:56,549 --> 00:31:54,240 people like hey 871 00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:56,559 you know i was watching the show on ufos 872 00:31:59,029 --> 00:31:58,000 blah blah blah and this is people that 873 00:32:01,509 --> 00:31:59,039 would never 874 00:32:02,470 --> 00:32:01,519 ever you know look at you know ufos or 875 00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:02,480 be interested 876 00:32:05,830 --> 00:32:03,840 you know they're you know often they 877 00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:05,840 would be like hey because always 878 00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:07,919 they know i always go beyond of what i'm 879 00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:09,760 always told looking at all the options 880 00:32:12,789 --> 00:32:11,760 regarding the coronavirus regarding 881 00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:12,799 everything that's out there 882 00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:15,120 so they come to me and say hey this is 883 00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:16,240 what they're saying 884 00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:18,080 give me all the stuff that you know that 885 00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:19,600 they're not telling me about 886 00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:21,360 you know and i said i can only present 887 00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:22,720 this to you you know 888 00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:24,720 and and for you to make up your own mind 889 00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:27,039 but don't hold this to be some kind of 890 00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:30,399 um you know stand of measure or or 891 00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:33,120 or this goal that you know it's it's the 892 00:32:36,149 --> 00:32:34,559 truth you know it's like 893 00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:36,159 this is something you know whatever i 894 00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:38,080 give you is other options 895 00:32:42,549 --> 00:32:40,320 to look at and some people like him some 896 00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:42,559 people won't you know it's like 897 00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:45,360 and as bashar said you know if you don't 898 00:32:47,350 --> 00:32:45,760 find 899 00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:47,360 what you're looking for here you will 900 00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:53,350 that's right that's right and then 901 00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:56,399 there's a uh like now is is i mean 902 00:33:00,149 --> 00:32:58,559 people are it's happening well the a lot 903 00:33:01,509 --> 00:33:00,159 of watermelon seeds are getting squeezed 904 00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:01,519 really tightly right now 905 00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:03,840 people's uh beloved systems and 906 00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:06,080 structures are failing them uh 907 00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:09,200 if if and the least you know they're 908 00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:10,080 just sort of going 909 00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:12,240 hmm that's not right you know that isn't 910 00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:13,440 the way it's supposed to be 911 00:33:15,909 --> 00:33:14,559 in the in the worst case scenarios 912 00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:15,919 they're absolutely you know they're 913 00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:17,279 they're losing their businesses losing 914 00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:18,159 their jobs and 915 00:33:21,430 --> 00:33:19,760 and for what you know if you turn off 916 00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:21,440 the tv and take off the face mask most 917 00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:23,039 people be like what pandemic 918 00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:25,120 my dad sent me a thing the other day in 919 00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:26,960 a text that was a uh 920 00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:30,240 and it said uh a real pandemic and i'm 921 00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:31,200 gonna paraphrase i don't remember it 922 00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:33,440 exactly a real pandemic doesn't need 24 923 00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:37,120 7 uh propaganda and reminders of it on 924 00:33:38,789 --> 00:33:37,600 tv 925 00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:38,799 you know like it doesn't need 926 00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:40,720 advertising it doesn't need anything you 927 00:33:43,509 --> 00:33:41,279 know like 928 00:33:45,269 --> 00:33:43,519 you would you would see the the effects 929 00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:45,279 of it a real real crisis if it really is 930 00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:47,039 was as bad as they said it is 931 00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:49,440 so i think a lot of people are going hmm 932 00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:50,960 this doesn't seem right 933 00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:52,399 they're getting they're getting squeezed 934 00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:54,320 and they're about to pop i'm but even us 935 00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:54,960 too it 936 00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:56,399 i'm not saying these people are any 937 00:33:59,990 --> 00:33:58,000 different they're just at a different 938 00:34:01,909 --> 00:34:00,000 uh they're at a different point in their 939 00:34:02,230 --> 00:34:01,919 path of discovery self-discovery you 940 00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:02,240 know 941 00:34:06,389 --> 00:34:05,360 and and and yeah like i feel the squeeze 942 00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:06,399 also you know 943 00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:08,800 well you know uh it's it's funny uh a 944 00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:10,159 lot of times when 945 00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:13,200 uh people always look at a 946 00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:17,280 a threat only if it's somebody 947 00:34:23,109 --> 00:34:21,440 with a boot stomping on their face 948 00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:23,119 you know only then do they say wow 949 00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:24,879 there's a threat it's there 950 00:34:28,230 --> 00:34:27,359 now i can act on it right they never 951 00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:28,240 suspect 952 00:34:32,149 --> 00:34:30,560 that you know when all of a sudden in 953 00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:32,159 1920s you know they 954 00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:33,599 of course always want to sell you the 955 00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:35,440 story that the crash happened 956 00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:37,200 you know normally because of money 957 00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:39,280 supply and yada yada all that normal 958 00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:40,000 stuff 959 00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:42,320 you know so many banks went out of 960 00:34:45,430 --> 00:34:43,200 business all these 961 00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:45,440 you know uh private unions you know went 962 00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:47,679 out of business and were basically 963 00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:49,919 to bigger and bigger nationalized banks 964 00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:52,079 you know and added to the central bank 965 00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:55,679 and so this it never stops you know 966 00:34:58,710 --> 00:34:57,599 you know people don't stop to realize 967 00:35:00,870 --> 00:34:58,720 they're so 968 00:35:02,069 --> 00:35:00,880 um you know they basically have been 969 00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:02,079 told that there's an enemy 970 00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:04,400 out there but you can't see it you know 971 00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:05,680 they've been told you have to be afraid 972 00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:07,200 of this enemy because it could be 973 00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:07,920 everywhere 974 00:35:14,710 --> 00:35:11,680 you know and so they they they tapped on 975 00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:14,720 the people's primal fears and so they 976 00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:16,480 just basically act on those 977 00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:18,800 instead of reading of all the things 978 00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:20,320 that are available online 979 00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:22,800 medical journals journal studies that 980 00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:23,680 have been done 981 00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:25,200 about all kinds of different things 982 00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:26,720 regarding 983 00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:30,000 things and effects it has 984 00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:33,040 on on on the body but none of that is 985 00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:35,440 has been allowed only one narrative 986 00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:37,760 which basically shuts down businesses 987 00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:40,480 and if you walmart and amazon and you 988 00:35:44,470 --> 00:35:41,760 know you can stay open 989 00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:44,480 everyone else shut down because you know 990 00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:45,280 only 991 00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:47,839 because you're quote-unquote a threat to 992 00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:48,720 society 993 00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:52,079 and so the point is i'm not telling you 994 00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:53,760 to believe in one way or another but 995 00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:54,160 just 996 00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:56,400 use your brain a little bit you know 997 00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:57,359 because 998 00:36:00,710 --> 00:36:00,240 whether you take the jab or whether you 999 00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:00,720 you know 1000 00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:04,000 uh find a natural way like vitamin c and 1001 00:36:07,589 --> 00:36:05,359 all the things that have been available 1002 00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:07,599 there for decades and centuries 1003 00:36:11,829 --> 00:36:09,359 it all still has to go through your 1004 00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:11,839 immune system it cannot circumvent your 1005 00:36:16,310 --> 00:36:12,880 immune system 1006 00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:16,320 and so you can strengthen it in so many 1007 00:36:19,990 --> 00:36:17,440 different ways but 1008 00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:20,000 it's it's not allowed to be looked at 1009 00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:22,240 it's only one way which is 1010 00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:25,440 by the the jab get it 1011 00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:28,160 and only that will give your salvation 1012 00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:29,359 because you obeyed 1013 00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:31,760 you followed and you went into direction 1014 00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:33,119 where you want you to go 1015 00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:35,119 you know if you still want to do that do 1016 00:36:40,630 --> 00:36:36,560 it you know if you want to wear a mask 1017 00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:40,640 then wear your mask the point is 1018 00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:43,440 i do not disagree with that whatsoever 1019 00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:44,079 where i am 1020 00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:46,640 at there's space for you but where you 1021 00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:47,440 want me to go 1022 00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:49,680 there is no space for me there i have to 1023 00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:52,079 obey i have to bow down i have to do all 1024 00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:54,000 these different things that basically 1025 00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:56,800 would just make you know would make me a 1026 00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:58,000 subject you know 1027 00:37:03,190 --> 00:37:01,359 and so um it's not something it's not 1028 00:37:05,270 --> 00:37:03,200 it's not in my system it's not in my 1029 00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:05,280 blood to ever be a victim 1030 00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:06,960 you know it's like i've been through 1031 00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:09,839 those those um 1032 00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:11,760 you know fought through whatever was 1033 00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:13,760 bothering me found the solutions i need 1034 00:37:17,829 --> 00:37:14,400 to find 1035 00:37:20,390 --> 00:37:17,839 you know and i i can never go oh poor me 1036 00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:20,400 oh this or that you know you have the 1037 00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:21,440 answers i am 1038 00:37:25,109 --> 00:37:23,760 lonely nothing only you can help me be 1039 00:37:27,109 --> 00:37:25,119 my salvation you know 1040 00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:27,119 and i just i never think in those terms 1041 00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:28,640 it's like what can i do 1042 00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:31,280 you know how can i educate myself and 1043 00:37:35,910 --> 00:37:33,680 for some reason now that's not allowed 1044 00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:35,920 you know so i don't know if they're 1045 00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:37,839 going to take this down because of 1046 00:37:42,150 --> 00:37:40,480 what i'm saying or what but the the 1047 00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:42,160 point here is that 1048 00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:44,480 you know some shift has happened to 1049 00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:45,280 where 1050 00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:47,040 it's important as i mentioned earlier 1051 00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:49,040 for us to become more aware of who we 1052 00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:50,720 truly are so you can 1053 00:37:56,790 --> 00:37:53,920 kind of look through the fog you know 1054 00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:56,800 get get past the double speak you know 1055 00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:58,320 and all the things where they keep 1056 00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:00,000 telling you you know go down 1057 00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:03,200 go down no go up go up 1058 00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:05,520 and you're just like wait wait no this 1059 00:38:08,790 --> 00:38:06,240 is up 1060 00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:08,800 this is down and they're like no obey 1061 00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:09,760 this is down 1062 00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:13,280 go down you know and so it's it's this 1063 00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:14,560 um 1064 00:38:18,069 --> 00:38:17,040 yeah it's it's a double speak that that 1065 00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:18,079 could drive somebody 1066 00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:20,640 nuts if you're if you're not a fortified 1067 00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:21,599 uh person 1068 00:38:26,069 --> 00:38:24,240 in your heart to where you know you 1069 00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:26,079 don't have to fight every battle 1070 00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:27,920 and to know that you know what's wrong 1071 00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:29,680 what's right and that that's good enough 1072 00:38:32,150 --> 00:38:31,520 for you in your own life without having 1073 00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:32,160 to 1074 00:38:36,870 --> 00:38:35,200 the time or 1075 00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:36,880 constantly have to be confrontational 1076 00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:38,000 about whatever it is that they're 1077 00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:39,280 telling you about 1078 00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:42,720 you know and so um i just for the first 1079 00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:43,359 time 1080 00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:45,760 for in my life what i've seen to where 1081 00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:48,640 they're telling you that 1082 00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:51,680 information is not good for you 1083 00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:54,720 you know educating yourself in all 1084 00:38:57,829 --> 00:38:56,000 aspects that you can 1085 00:39:00,150 --> 00:38:57,839 thanks to the internet is not good for 1086 00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:00,160 you we tell you what to say 1087 00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:02,480 we tell you what to think we tell you 1088 00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:03,520 what to do 1089 00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:05,359 if you don't then you're a threat to 1090 00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:07,599 society if you do you're being good and 1091 00:39:12,829 --> 00:39:08,560 obedient 1092 00:39:15,510 --> 00:39:12,839 you know and so anyway 1093 00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:15,520 so the the whole idea 1094 00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:18,880 is that you know you have to you have to 1095 00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:20,079 become 1096 00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:23,200 a a 1097 00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:25,599 an active person in your life you have 1098 00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:26,480 to become 1099 00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:30,000 somebody that basically you know can say 1100 00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:31,920 well you know what what you're telling 1101 00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:33,760 me is doesn't sound quite right 1102 00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:35,920 but give me some time to figure it out 1103 00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:38,160 because 1104 00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:39,599 you know what what are you you know when 1105 00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:41,040 you look at all these different things 1106 00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:42,800 you know it's it's always 1107 00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:44,400 it's always been that way always some 1108 00:39:48,870 --> 00:39:46,000 kind of huge threat 1109 00:39:49,349 --> 00:39:48,880 always created you know to fear this 1110 00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:49,359 person 1111 00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:54,640 fear that thing you know to always just 1112 00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:56,560 kind of obey succumb 1113 00:40:00,150 --> 00:39:59,119 obey you know do as you told you know 1114 00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:00,160 only then 1115 00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:02,160 you know will will it be better for the 1116 00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:03,280 for the whole 1117 00:40:07,829 --> 00:40:06,079 and um it just doesn't work if if you 1118 00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:07,839 want to continue to start calling 1119 00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:11,040 yourself a free person anyway 1120 00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:13,520 i went it's not exactly a rant but when 1121 00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:15,760 my brain starts flowing i just 1122 00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:23,670 yeah man anyway so i'm sorry nathan what 1123 00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:24,960 was the other thing that there was 1124 00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:26,400 something else you were covering 1125 00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:29,760 um that i just kind of covered the part 1126 00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:31,599 about the waking up part but there was 1127 00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:35,440 other things and points you were making 1128 00:40:40,630 --> 00:40:38,640 well i guess the main point was just uh 1129 00:40:42,069 --> 00:40:40,640 just sort of you know just sort of you 1130 00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:42,079 know a little mental masturbation like 1131 00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:43,200 thinking like well 1132 00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:44,880 what would it really look like if people 1133 00:40:47,829 --> 00:40:46,400 like how what are the other things that 1134 00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:47,839 would wake people up you know like i 1135 00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:49,760 said like it was 9 11 for me or 1136 00:40:53,270 --> 00:40:52,800 uh you know or or but like and then 1137 00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:53,280 that's why 1138 00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:56,880 like this book is uh uh saying like what 1139 00:40:59,990 --> 00:40:57,920 like if the 1140 00:41:01,670 --> 00:41:00,000 if the virtual reality started beginning 1141 00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:01,680 so real it would just make people 1142 00:41:04,390 --> 00:41:03,119 starting questioning their own reality 1143 00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:04,400 and it's that questioning right there 1144 00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:06,000 that i guess that was my main 1145 00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:08,560 point that i was getting to you know 1146 00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:09,760 people start questioning that's 1147 00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:11,920 that's where they'll uh that right there 1148 00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:12,960 will raise 1149 00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:15,520 their you know the frequency of the 1150 00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:17,280 atomic structure and and that'll raise 1151 00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:18,960 the hole and then and then we might just 1152 00:41:24,069 --> 00:41:20,480 do a shift 1153 00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:24,079 you know into the next great the next 1154 00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:24,560 chapter 1155 00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:29,280 yeah as you can see 1156 00:41:32,710 --> 00:41:31,040 i was just going to say you know uh 1157 00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:32,720 there was talking about the virtual 1158 00:41:37,510 --> 00:41:34,160 reality part 1159 00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:37,520 um there was a uh 1160 00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:40,640 an example there was during one of my my 1161 00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:41,760 psychedelic trips 1162 00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:43,359 there was an example that was given to 1163 00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:45,119 me that was pretty interesting 1164 00:41:50,790 --> 00:41:48,160 um you know all my life i always just 1165 00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:50,800 um because of my experiences you know 1166 00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:51,680 you 1167 00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:55,200 can possibly be 1168 00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:57,200 if you're going to be at school be the 1169 00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:58,800 best that you can possibly be 1170 00:42:01,990 --> 00:42:00,960 you know i wasn't always the best but i 1171 00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:02,000 you know i did my best 1172 00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:04,640 to get good grades move on continue to 1173 00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:06,000 next grade and just 1174 00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:08,400 because i saw what it looks like when 1175 00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:09,359 you don't try 1176 00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:11,280 where you end up you know and and you 1177 00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:13,839 become this person to where you have no 1178 00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:14,319 other 1179 00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:16,800 you know ways out by simply just giving 1180 00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:17,920 up so to say 1181 00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:21,920 so i've always you know i've always uh 1182 00:42:26,230 --> 00:42:24,480 went to school and and tried to you know 1183 00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:26,240 got my degree in computer science 1184 00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:27,760 and then because i was originally born 1185 00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:30,640 in bosnia also i'm 1186 00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:32,240 originally from germany but although i 1187 00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:34,400 grew up in germany so i was allowed to 1188 00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:36,480 take some german credits because 1189 00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:39,359 originally i'm bosnian and but i grew up 1190 00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:40,400 in germany so 1191 00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:43,040 at that time i spoke german even better 1192 00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:44,960 so i just took the opportunity to get 1193 00:42:47,270 --> 00:42:46,640 some extra credits and get a minor in 1194 00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:47,280 german 1195 00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:50,800 you know and so then got a uh 1196 00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:52,640 i've been basically designing websites 1197 00:42:58,790 --> 00:42:55,119 since i was like 13-14 1198 00:43:01,990 --> 00:42:58,800 starting out back in you know 1998 so 1199 00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:02,000 you know i just already knew about html 1200 00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,359 and javascript and 1201 00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:05,760 all those you know uh basics there are 1202 00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:07,359 needing to design the website at that 1203 00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:09,200 time and just you always grow you always 1204 00:43:13,829 --> 00:43:11,599 learn new things you know php and then 1205 00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:13,839 as you go on there's always always new 1206 00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:14,880 tools that you add 1207 00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:17,520 to your repertoire the point here that 1208 00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:19,200 i'm that i'm um 1209 00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:22,000 trying to make is that i never had a 1210 00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:23,119 chance to just 1211 00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:26,240 relax to be a kid to just be you know 1212 00:43:30,550 --> 00:43:28,240 stupid and do some silly stuff 1213 00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:30,560 it was always survive survive survive 1214 00:43:33,670 --> 00:43:32,480 just keep going never ever give up until 1215 00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:33,680 i got to a point 1216 00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:35,680 which only really became possible in the 1217 00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:37,040 united states to where 1218 00:43:40,470 --> 00:43:39,760 i worked hard and i got you know my 1219 00:43:43,349 --> 00:43:40,480 reward 1220 00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:43,359 you know by basically you know um being 1221 00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:45,280 very capable to do whatever it is i 1222 00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:46,880 needed to do and never have to worry 1223 00:43:50,309 --> 00:43:47,280 about 1224 00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:50,319 not being able to find a job so 1225 00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:52,480 after i graduated college i went through 1226 00:43:56,870 --> 00:43:54,240 this period of about 1227 00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:56,880 two years and at that time i had my own 1228 00:44:03,030 --> 00:43:58,880 commercial cleaning business i was only 1229 00:44:05,589 --> 00:44:03,040 22 and so during the night was 1230 00:44:07,109 --> 00:44:05,599 the the business part you know and going 1231 00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:07,119 out there and had a crew about 1232 00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:10,480 of six people and um you know do all the 1233 00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:11,920 work and just 1234 00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:13,680 doing whatever i need to do clean 1235 00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:15,680 offices clean toilets you know it's like 1236 00:44:18,069 --> 00:44:17,200 it's your business you do what you have 1237 00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:18,079 to do 1238 00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:20,400 so i was like when is life going to 1239 00:44:22,390 --> 00:44:21,839 start i want to play a little i want to 1240 00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:22,400 have fun 1241 00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:25,839 you know so i found this game called 1242 00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:26,560 repels 1243 00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:28,319 and it's basically where you create your 1244 00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:29,920 character it's kind of like a 1245 00:44:33,349 --> 00:44:31,920 version like wow you know world of 1246 00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:33,359 warcraft 1247 00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:35,280 and you just build the character up and 1248 00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:36,800 you're running around and you have 1249 00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:38,720 potions and all kinds of stuff so i just 1250 00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:39,280 started 1251 00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:41,440 playing i was like i want to enjoy 1252 00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:43,520 myself yeah i'm already out of college 1253 00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:45,680 doing all this other stuff when i get to 1254 00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:46,880 just relax 1255 00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:51,119 and so um so for two years it was like 1256 00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:52,079 this 1257 00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:55,359 constant just i was uh enthralled with 1258 00:44:58,069 --> 00:44:55,599 it 1259 00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:58,079 just playing and and building up the 1260 00:45:00,630 --> 00:44:59,680 character and doing all this different 1261 00:45:02,710 --> 00:45:00,640 stuff you know 1262 00:45:04,630 --> 00:45:02,720 and it just about lasted for two years 1263 00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:04,640 after that i just kind of stopped and 1264 00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:06,400 never really looked back and continued 1265 00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:07,200 playing and 1266 00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:10,000 we had land parties and hanging out with 1267 00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:10,560 friends but 1268 00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:12,640 i never you know never really went back 1269 00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:14,000 to it so 1270 00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:17,200 sorry about the long setup long story 1271 00:45:20,790 --> 00:45:19,280 short i when i had my experience during 1272 00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:20,800 one of these particular psychedelic 1273 00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:22,160 trips was 1274 00:45:26,630 --> 00:45:24,480 basically it was shown to me as an 1275 00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:26,640 example how everything is a reflection 1276 00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:27,599 to you 1277 00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:30,800 so seeing movies we're basically telling 1278 00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:31,760 ourselves 1279 00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:34,880 that we're just characters so that adnan 1280 00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:36,480 is just a character that's 1281 00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:38,720 that you know it's not the true being 1282 00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:39,599 that i am 1283 00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:42,400 that nathan it's not you know nathan is 1284 00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:44,079 just the character of the true being 1285 00:45:48,790 --> 00:45:45,040 that you are 1286 00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:48,800 and so uh through basically these 1287 00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:50,880 through movies through for example 1288 00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:53,440 gaming we're literally telling ourselves 1289 00:45:58,150 --> 00:45:54,240 that we are 1290 00:46:00,069 --> 00:45:58,160 in our own game that basically you 1291 00:46:01,270 --> 00:46:00,079 go around you create yourself however 1292 00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:01,280 you want to create yourself 1293 00:46:04,630 --> 00:46:03,040 wear whatever you would want to wear 1294 00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:04,640 whatever you feel like expresses 1295 00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:05,680 yourself 1296 00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:08,400 but that the true player is actually the 1297 00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:08,800 one 1298 00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:11,599 that's observing behind the screen so 1299 00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:13,440 that character in the game might be 1300 00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:14,800 running around and 1301 00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:17,040 and and fighting or whatever game you're 1302 00:46:21,910 --> 00:46:19,280 playing but it is not aware of 1303 00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:21,920 why it's doing that it just knows it has 1304 00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:23,359 a world to interact with 1305 00:46:26,710 --> 00:46:25,920 it goes up and down the hills and meets 1306 00:46:30,069 --> 00:46:26,720 other people 1307 00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:30,079 and runs into other you know characters 1308 00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:32,480 you know like for example i would often 1309 00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:33,599 we had our own 1310 00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:35,200 voice server so i would call up my 1311 00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:37,119 friend he'll get you know he'll get on 1312 00:46:40,390 --> 00:46:38,800 there we'll meet at the certain server 1313 00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:40,400 we'll meet up in the game 1314 00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:42,800 well to those characters in the game 1315 00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:44,560 they don't know they just ran into the 1316 00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:45,680 other person go hey 1317 00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:47,920 how are you doing you know what you know 1318 00:46:50,550 --> 00:46:48,800 what i'm saying is 1319 00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:50,560 the the games are not thinking for 1320 00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:52,400 themselves but it was an example given 1321 00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:53,359 to me that 1322 00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:54,960 we are just like these characters is 1323 00:47:00,150 --> 00:46:57,760 there's a higher you know higher self 1324 00:47:01,109 --> 00:47:00,160 observing what is going on and 1325 00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:01,119 communication 1326 00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:03,760 happening all the time it's non-stop to 1327 00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:04,800 where to us 1328 00:47:08,069 --> 00:47:07,119 things might be coincidental to us 1329 00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:08,079 things might be 1330 00:47:11,589 --> 00:47:10,160 just happen by accident but there's 1331 00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:11,599 absolutely no accident 1332 00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:14,000 everything is constantly coordinated and 1333 00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:15,119 and set up 1334 00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:17,520 for the the limited version of you the 1335 00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:18,880 character that you are 1336 00:47:22,549 --> 00:47:21,520 to have this experience which will add 1337 00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:22,559 to the whole of 1338 00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:25,280 being of who you are but you know it's 1339 00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:26,400 it's not 1340 00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:29,920 uh the the do you all be all so anyway 1341 00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:32,160 regarding your simulation is that 1342 00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:34,880 um the the experience that i had it it's 1343 00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:36,000 not 1344 00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:39,680 meant a simulation quite 1345 00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:42,559 literally like a digital or if you meant 1346 00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:42,960 like 1347 00:47:46,390 --> 00:47:45,760 simulation uh using consciousness but it 1348 00:47:48,390 --> 00:47:46,400 was 1349 00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:48,400 all the creation of this consciousness 1350 00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:49,440 to where 1351 00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:51,760 um it's all there ever is is just this 1352 00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:53,760 one consciousness interacting with the 1353 00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:54,400 self 1354 00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:55,920 so in order to have something to 1355 00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:58,640 interact with it vibrates at different 1356 00:48:02,549 --> 00:48:00,000 levels which creates 1357 00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:02,559 matter and creates different things to 1358 00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:04,160 for you to be able to pick up this 1359 00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:05,040 keyboard or 1360 00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:08,160 this cup or drink and consume stuff and 1361 00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:10,640 have the processes so basically it's 1362 00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:12,000 it's um 1363 00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:15,520 it's create taken apart in its own 1364 00:48:19,829 --> 00:48:17,440 energy to create 1365 00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:19,839 whatever it needs to interact with in 1366 00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:22,160 order to have an experience because 1367 00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:25,119 there is nothing outside of it you know 1368 00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:25,920 and so anyway 1369 00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:28,640 um i just wanted to comment regarding 1370 00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:29,200 the the 1371 00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:32,960 the i said what did you call it again um 1372 00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:34,240 hypothesis that's the name of the book 1373 00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:37,359 the simulation hypothesis right right 1374 00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:40,400 and so anyway uh so it's very much 1375 00:48:45,750 --> 00:48:41,520 simulated 1376 00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:45,760 but it's not a it's a very it's not a 1377 00:48:52,950 --> 00:48:49,200 digital it's not a digital uh 1378 00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:52,960 it's it's more it's it's basically a 1379 00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:55,599 it's a consciousness it's an energy that 1380 00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:56,160 you are 1381 00:48:59,750 --> 00:48:59,119 it we're all swimming in it and and it's 1382 00:49:01,990 --> 00:48:59,760 basically 1383 00:49:03,990 --> 00:49:02,000 simulated and created based on what it 1384 00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:04,000 is that you wanted to experience 1385 00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:06,160 because it's so weird unless you give 1386 00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:07,200 something meaning 1387 00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:10,480 there's absolutely life is meaningless 1388 00:49:14,309 --> 00:49:13,200 you know it's there's no there's nothing 1389 00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:14,319 that 1390 00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:17,440 its own 1391 00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:20,079 it's like everything has to be uh 1392 00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:20,720 created 1393 00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:22,640 assigned and given the label in order 1394 00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:24,240 for you to interact with 1395 00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:26,880 you know um one particular experience 1396 00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:27,280 it's 1397 00:49:33,190 --> 00:49:31,520 to those that can't relate but 1398 00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:33,200 you know this channel is about weird 1399 00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:34,640 stuff all the time so i'm going to share 1400 00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:35,760 it with you 1401 00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:38,559 um this was particularly uh one 1402 00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:39,680 particular 1403 00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:42,960 lsd trip and um basically 1404 00:49:46,549 --> 00:49:45,359 as always i would then sit down and i 1405 00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:46,559 could just feel all the 1406 00:49:50,309 --> 00:49:48,400 whatever is coming down to just like 1407 00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:50,319 like almost like a teacher about to show 1408 00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:50,720 me 1409 00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:53,839 and this was 1410 00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:56,640 uh the third installment i call it 1411 00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:57,440 basically i've 1412 00:50:00,790 --> 00:49:59,280 been i was learning through all these 1413 00:50:02,549 --> 00:50:00,800 other things you know 1414 00:50:04,230 --> 00:50:02,559 what the universe is about and all these 1415 00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:04,240 different things but this particular one 1416 00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:05,599 was weird to where 1417 00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:08,240 i just sat sat there and all of a sudden 1418 00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:09,119 there was 1419 00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:12,960 nothing but but darkness with this huge 1420 00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:16,240 circle full of colors i mean every color 1421 00:50:20,230 --> 00:50:19,280 and more that i could you know ever ever 1422 00:50:22,549 --> 00:50:20,240 observe 1423 00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:22,559 and i just was in awe by it i was 1424 00:50:26,230 --> 00:50:23,520 looking at it 1425 00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:26,240 and out of this weird pattern you know 1426 00:50:30,790 --> 00:50:27,440 it was just 1427 00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:30,800 you know something stuck out you know in 1428 00:50:35,109 --> 00:50:31,839 this pattern 1429 00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:35,119 to where i i it looked familiar i knew 1430 00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:36,160 what it was 1431 00:50:39,829 --> 00:50:38,640 but out of all this chaos this one 1432 00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:39,839 particular one 1433 00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:41,920 i knew what it was but i for the love of 1434 00:50:47,349 --> 00:50:43,760 me i could not remember the name 1435 00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:47,359 so i kind of kind of floated towards it 1436 00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:49,520 and i was looking at it and i'm 1437 00:50:53,270 --> 00:50:51,599 observing i'm looking at the bottom of 1438 00:50:54,549 --> 00:50:53,280 it on top of it and all these other 1439 00:50:56,549 --> 00:50:54,559 things and so 1440 00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:56,559 while i'm having this experience you 1441 00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:58,720 know i'm i'm understanding that 1442 00:51:02,790 --> 00:51:00,640 nothing has a meaning i have to give it 1443 00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:02,800 a meaning and just 1444 00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:05,359 after observing it for a while it just 1445 00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:07,440 finally like it just clicked i can't 1446 00:51:09,990 --> 00:51:08,000 explain 1447 00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:10,000 what exactly occurred but when it 1448 00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:12,240 clicked i realized it was my chair in 1449 00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:13,440 the living room and as 1450 00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:15,760 it materialized everything else in the 1451 00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:17,440 room did as well 1452 00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:20,960 and then i realized like oh i am in my 1453 00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:22,000 room and i've been 1454 00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:23,760 staring at this chair for i don't know 1455 00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:25,680 how long for someone on the outside 1456 00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:27,040 would have looked at this said 1457 00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:29,040 god look at his dumbass you know but 1458 00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:31,760 there was actual lessons going on 1459 00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:33,680 things that were conveyed to me to give 1460 00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:35,280 me an example of 1461 00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:38,079 what reality really is that if i didn't 1462 00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:38,720 if we 1463 00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:42,079 whoever uh you know i didn't invent 1464 00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:44,400 you know the chair as adnan whoever 1465 00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:46,160 invented it and gave it that name 1466 00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:48,640 you know we propagate these beliefs that 1467 00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:50,480 this is a cup but you know this is a 1468 00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:52,319 keyboard the chair is the chair 1469 00:51:56,230 --> 00:51:55,760 you know and so you know um it was it 1470 00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:56,240 was 1471 00:52:00,390 --> 00:51:58,640 totally i mean it took me about years 1472 00:52:03,030 --> 00:52:00,400 you know couple of years afterwards 1473 00:52:03,750 --> 00:52:03,040 just to come to terms with that nothing 1474 00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:03,760 has meaning 1475 00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:06,480 if i don't give it meaning it it it just 1476 00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:07,440 it wouldn't 1477 00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:13,760 does that make sense nathan yeah yeah 1478 00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:15,440 actually that that that sort of reminds 1479 00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:16,800 me of this other 1480 00:52:19,829 --> 00:52:18,640 theory i've had or maybe i read it 1481 00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:19,839 somewhere but so 1482 00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:21,440 you have to you're saying you you give 1483 00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:22,720 it attention what you give your 1484 00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:23,440 attention to 1485 00:52:27,349 --> 00:52:26,640 or what you give it meaning um and and 1486 00:52:29,829 --> 00:52:27,359 that's 1487 00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:29,839 you know how like these these people 1488 00:52:32,790 --> 00:52:30,800 that are doing 1489 00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:32,800 that would like to create this negative 1490 00:52:35,109 --> 00:52:34,400 reality this negative shared reality on 1491 00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:35,119 earth here 1492 00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:37,040 and they they try to they're trying to 1493 00:52:40,470 --> 00:52:38,720 do it through fear and 1494 00:52:42,549 --> 00:52:40,480 and they you know whatever they they 1495 00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:42,559 ascribe to some weird occultic religion 1496 00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:44,000 you know whatever it's satanist or 1497 00:52:46,470 --> 00:52:45,200 whatever they want to whatever they want 1498 00:52:47,430 --> 00:52:46,480 to call it they believe it they believe 1499 00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:47,440 it holy 1500 00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:48,640 and they believe that they have power 1501 00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:49,760 and they believe that this religion 1502 00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:51,040 gives them power 1503 00:52:55,190 --> 00:52:53,119 um but in reality when it comes right 1504 00:52:57,270 --> 00:52:55,200 down to it their reality 1505 00:52:58,950 --> 00:52:57,280 is only adopted by the rest of us if 1506 00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:58,960 they can convince the rest of us so it's 1507 00:53:00,870 --> 00:53:00,160 really our power it's not they don't 1508 00:53:02,790 --> 00:53:00,880 have any power 1509 00:53:03,910 --> 00:53:02,800 it's their if they can convince the rest 1510 00:53:06,150 --> 00:53:03,920 of the rest of us 1511 00:53:07,750 --> 00:53:06,160 to give the reality that they want and i 1512 00:53:08,950 --> 00:53:07,760 keep saying they i hate that word but 1513 00:53:11,589 --> 00:53:08,960 you know what i'm talking about 1514 00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:11,599 to give the reality they want um the 1515 00:53:14,230 --> 00:53:12,720 meaning that you're talking about or the 1516 00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:14,240 purpose or the uh 1517 00:53:18,390 --> 00:53:16,240 give attention to it you know right but 1518 00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:18,400 uh right i just want to say i'm talking 1519 00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:18,960 this is 1520 00:53:23,430 --> 00:53:21,280 beyond i'm not just talking about from 1521 00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:23,440 you and i as characters giving something 1522 00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:25,920 meaning i'm talking about from the true 1523 00:53:29,589 --> 00:53:29,200 energy source that we are that you know 1524 00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:29,599 it's 1525 00:53:33,510 --> 00:53:31,920 it that has to give give it meaning and 1526 00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:33,520 continue this library 1527 00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:36,160 you know to where there is such a thing 1528 00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:36,880 as 1529 00:53:44,150 --> 00:53:42,240 propagated throughout centuries so that 1530 00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:44,160 you know doesn't matter how many 1531 00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:45,839 centuries you know ago 1532 00:53:50,470 --> 00:53:48,480 and how many centuries moving forward 1533 00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:50,480 that same definition of those 1534 00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:52,160 basic elements is still going to be 1535 00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:54,480 there but it wasn't originally created 1536 00:53:57,190 --> 00:53:56,640 by us as characters it was created by 1537 00:54:02,150 --> 00:53:57,200 this 1538 00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:02,160 different than when you look at a game 1539 00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:04,559 right when you look at a game and you 1540 00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:06,480 see the monitor and the person 1541 00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:08,640 you know is being generated through the 1542 00:54:13,270 --> 00:54:09,520 graphics card 1543 00:54:15,190 --> 00:54:13,280 right um the plane on which it walks 1544 00:54:16,950 --> 00:54:15,200 the the different potions that have 1545 00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:16,960 their names all the stuff that was 1546 00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:17,760 created 1547 00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:20,400 by a game designer you know and only 1548 00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:21,520 then with that 1549 00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:23,680 design can you then move forward and 1550 00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:26,240 interact and say these are the laws of 1551 00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:28,240 you know physics and you know if you 1552 00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:30,400 jump that you can generally as a human 1553 00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:30,960 can jump 1554 00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:33,920 this high to this height some exceed 1555 00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:34,880 more or less 1556 00:54:38,069 --> 00:54:36,960 but the point is if there's a they 1557 00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:38,079 defined 1558 00:54:41,829 --> 00:54:40,799 um aspect of reality in which you 1559 00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:41,839 interact with 1560 00:54:45,270 --> 00:54:44,400 only when you choose to be done with it 1561 00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:45,280 you know and step 1562 00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:47,680 outside and realize you're just the 1563 00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:48,640 observer 1564 00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:51,119 you know and then you you look at you 1565 00:54:53,349 --> 00:54:52,559 know because when you're in the game and 1566 00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:53,359 you look at the 1567 00:54:57,670 --> 00:54:55,280 characters no matter how awesome of 1568 00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:57,680 graphics is when you're really into it 1569 00:55:00,950 --> 00:55:00,160 it's real but then when you step back do 1570 00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:00,960 you see 1571 00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:03,200 the world that you consider reality as 1572 00:55:06,309 --> 00:55:04,960 and how much detail it has compared to 1573 00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:06,319 the graphics designed 1574 00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:09,599 right but then imagine that cycle never 1575 00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:10,480 stops 1576 00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:12,240 there's always going to be an observer 1577 00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:14,559 upon observers on a pawn observer 1578 00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:15,280 because 1579 00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:19,040 there's always you know a a higher level 1580 00:55:24,630 --> 00:55:22,240 to who you are you know to 1581 00:55:26,549 --> 00:55:24,640 this is what it's a confusing part it's 1582 00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:26,559 like but how do you eventually again 1583 00:55:33,750 --> 00:55:30,160 get to god the source to where it 1584 00:55:35,589 --> 00:55:33,760 there is nothing there but it you know 1585 00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:35,599 or or it's simply just all of its 1586 00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:37,680 cyclical you know that's just another 1587 00:55:42,789 --> 00:55:40,880 you know conversation to be had but um 1588 00:55:44,750 --> 00:55:42,799 you know regarding regarding that the 1589 00:55:46,950 --> 00:55:44,760 very fact that you know 1590 00:55:47,750 --> 00:55:46,960 simulations and all these other things 1591 00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:47,760 is just 1592 00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:51,520 you know um it's we call it a simulation 1593 00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:53,359 because of how what we create 1594 00:55:58,390 --> 00:55:56,079 and you know using the computers but 1595 00:55:58,950 --> 00:55:58,400 very little are we aware of that there's 1596 00:56:01,750 --> 00:55:58,960 another 1597 00:56:02,069 --> 00:56:01,760 part of us connected to this higher you 1598 00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:02,079 know 1599 00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:03,680 higher understanding kind of like a look 1600 00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:05,920 at movies right you can 1601 00:56:10,309 --> 00:56:08,240 sit sit back and be enthralled into a 1602 00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:10,319 movie and you watch the whole movie 1603 00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:12,960 now in the movie itself you know there 1604 00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:14,160 might be 1605 00:56:17,270 --> 00:56:16,640 time spans that are different time works 1606 00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:17,280 differently 1607 00:56:21,190 --> 00:56:19,520 because in the movie we were talking 1608 00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:21,200 about this character is 1609 00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:23,440 walking and doing something and days go 1610 00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:25,440 by sometimes years go by 1611 00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:27,200 you know and then finally when you were 1612 00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:28,640 to draw from it 1613 00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:30,559 all you just realized it's just you you 1614 00:56:33,109 --> 00:56:32,160 just sat there you didn't go anywhere 1615 00:56:34,710 --> 00:56:33,119 didn't do anything 1616 00:56:36,470 --> 00:56:34,720 you know and only about hour and a half 1617 00:56:39,270 --> 00:56:36,480 went by whereas in the movie 1618 00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:39,280 you know uh decades if not years went by 1619 00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:40,160 well it's the same 1620 00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:42,400 aspect to the other part to where from 1621 00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:43,520 to how self 1622 00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:45,440 looks at your world and you know you 1623 00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:46,960 might go through 1624 00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:49,440 what a 80-year lifespan but from its 1625 00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:51,040 perspective it's just been like 1626 00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:54,400 minutes if not seconds you know and 1627 00:56:58,470 --> 00:56:57,119 um that's what's so what's so intriguing 1628 00:57:02,390 --> 00:56:58,480 about our reality 1629 00:57:02,710 --> 00:57:02,400 you know and and how we interact with 1630 00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:02,720 this 1631 00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:05,520 and then the other beings that are also 1632 00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:07,200 part of the collective which we call 1633 00:57:09,829 --> 00:57:08,160 aliens 1634 00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:09,839 you know and then they have their own 1635 00:57:13,589 --> 00:57:11,520 life and the things that they do on 1636 00:57:15,109 --> 00:57:13,599 those different planets and places 1637 00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:15,119 you know and then trying to understand 1638 00:57:19,030 --> 00:57:16,960 them you know which is then 1639 00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:19,040 trying to understand yourself now from a 1640 00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:20,640 different perspective 1641 00:57:24,309 --> 00:57:22,880 you know and that and then realize the 1642 00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:24,319 perspectives will never end 1643 00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:27,280 you'll constantly be exploring you know 1644 00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:29,280 one exploration after another 1645 00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:35,670 um nathan sorry just real quick so 1646 00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:37,520 anyone watching if you 1647 00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:40,480 uh nathan happens to be online but you 1648 00:57:43,190 --> 00:57:41,440 can download 1649 00:57:44,549 --> 00:57:43,200 telegram onto your phone or your 1650 00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:44,559 computer find 1651 00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:47,920 the ufo hub group and there's a voice 1652 00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:50,000 chat going on right now where nathan has 1653 00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:51,599 already joined 1654 00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:54,480 feel free to join as well you can either 1655 00:57:57,430 --> 00:57:55,040 listen 1656 00:57:59,190 --> 00:57:57,440 or if you want to share a story simply 1657 00:58:00,390 --> 00:57:59,200 raise your hand i know you want to talk 1658 00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:00,400 to me and then 1659 00:58:06,069 --> 00:58:03,440 we'll be chatting online this is also 1660 00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:06,079 simultaneously going out on telegram and 1661 00:58:11,750 --> 00:58:08,000 on youtube 1662 00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:11,760 so um nathan uh let me let me uh can you 1663 00:58:13,829 --> 00:58:13,200 just sit there for a quick second i just 1664 00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:13,839 want to see 1665 00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:16,000 uh uh what's happening in chat and see 1666 00:58:25,109 --> 00:58:18,720 if i can address something there 1667 00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:28,309 uh hazel welcome good to see you 1668 00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:36,870 the 5d raven also welcome uh 1669 00:58:45,349 --> 00:58:42,870 let me see if there's a question so 1670 00:58:48,230 --> 00:58:45,359 fabrice asked 1671 00:58:50,309 --> 00:58:48,240 i'm still dubious that psychedelic stuff 1672 00:58:54,549 --> 00:58:50,319 is perhaps 1673 00:58:57,290 --> 00:58:54,559 a good lead and is in consciousness 1674 00:58:58,390 --> 00:58:57,300 not then misled then 1675 00:59:03,510 --> 00:58:58,400 [Music] 1676 00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:03,520 when altered from natural 1677 00:59:09,109 --> 00:59:06,720 proceed to perceive and learn 1678 00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:09,119 uh i think i know what you're getting at 1679 00:59:13,750 --> 00:59:10,319 uh fabriced 1680 00:59:16,470 --> 00:59:13,760 um what i found when it comes to these 1681 00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:16,480 different psychedelics is not that they 1682 00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:20,400 alter your reality as we see it 1683 00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:23,680 it's that it helps you go beyond 1684 00:59:27,750 --> 00:59:26,400 what your senses can perceive your eyes 1685 00:59:30,950 --> 00:59:27,760 are designed to work 1686 00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:30,960 only within a certain spectrum that you 1687 00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:32,160 know that we call 1688 00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:36,160 the visual spectrum there's you know 1689 00:59:39,589 --> 00:59:38,400 these different colors and different not 1690 00:59:42,069 --> 00:59:39,599 different colors but different 1691 00:59:42,710 --> 00:59:42,079 frequencies that we can't see you know 1692 00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:42,720 um 1693 00:59:46,710 --> 00:59:44,880 when when it comes to hearing you only 1694 00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:46,720 hear so many decibels you know the 1695 00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:48,000 lowest and highest 1696 00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:50,640 dogs can hear even more high-pitched you 1697 00:59:54,309 --> 00:59:51,760 know noises 1698 00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:54,319 and then basically all the things that 1699 00:59:57,270 --> 00:59:55,200 you're 1700 00:59:59,190 --> 00:59:57,280 perceiving and taking in is filtered 1701 01:00:02,789 --> 00:59:59,200 through by that limited way 1702 01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:02,799 the way your body is designed to see and 1703 01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:06,000 it's what i have experienced 1704 01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:08,240 and what i understood to be kind of my 1705 01:00:10,789 --> 01:00:09,200 lesson plan 1706 01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:10,799 is to go through these different 1707 01:00:12,950 --> 01:00:12,480 psychedelic lessons i call them the 1708 01:00:14,950 --> 01:00:12,960 seven 1709 01:00:16,230 --> 01:00:14,960 different lessons and several different 1710 01:00:18,870 --> 01:00:16,240 psychedelics 1711 01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:18,880 that basically taught me certain things 1712 01:00:27,670 --> 01:00:24,789 imagine one day 1713 01:00:27,990 --> 01:00:27,680 it's overused example but i'm gonna use 1714 01:00:30,870 --> 01:00:28,000 it right 1715 01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:30,880 now imagine as a fish you always have 1716 01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:33,040 been in water you always swam around and 1717 01:00:37,510 --> 01:00:35,040 there was nothing out of the ordinary 1718 01:00:38,549 --> 01:00:37,520 you know about it but then through some 1719 01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:38,559 weird reason 1720 01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:41,119 and in my case and human case would be 1721 01:00:43,510 --> 01:00:42,480 you know let's say something like a 1722 01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:43,520 psychedelic 1723 01:00:49,829 --> 01:00:47,760 you realize that you are in water 1724 01:00:51,670 --> 01:00:49,839 that was not you know you were not aware 1725 01:00:54,069 --> 01:00:51,680 of that before you just 1726 01:00:55,030 --> 01:00:54,079 were swimming you you did your thing you 1727 01:00:58,150 --> 01:00:55,040 never gave it 1728 01:01:00,390 --> 01:00:58,160 one thought about that what is this 1729 01:01:02,390 --> 01:01:00,400 environment and so what that did for me 1730 01:01:04,710 --> 01:01:02,400 is that made me aware that i'm 1731 01:01:05,510 --> 01:01:04,720 you know in water and not only that 1732 01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:05,520 there's 1733 01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:08,880 also land and then expands your mind 1734 01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:10,799 more and more to where now you're taught 1735 01:01:15,510 --> 01:01:12,720 about certain things 1736 01:01:16,630 --> 01:01:15,520 that are out there that generally you 1737 01:01:19,990 --> 01:01:16,640 know would not be 1738 01:01:22,150 --> 01:01:20,000 as easily accessible you know especially 1739 01:01:24,190 --> 01:01:22,160 let's say if you if you're using 1740 01:01:25,910 --> 01:01:24,200 meditation i mean it's a great you know 1741 01:01:29,109 --> 01:01:25,920 non-um 1742 01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:29,119 non-substance way to go about it but 1743 01:01:33,270 --> 01:01:31,680 uh it takes some people a long time and 1744 01:01:35,430 --> 01:01:33,280 a lot of them get tired 1745 01:01:36,870 --> 01:01:35,440 or bored way before they ever reach the 1746 01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:36,880 state that they need to be in 1747 01:01:41,430 --> 01:01:39,440 but what's interesting is when once you 1748 01:01:43,589 --> 01:01:41,440 touch it with your mind and understand 1749 01:01:45,030 --> 01:01:43,599 what the different levels are now you 1750 01:01:45,910 --> 01:01:45,040 can access them through meditation 1751 01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:45,920 easily because 1752 01:01:49,589 --> 01:01:48,640 it's you know in my case i know where 1753 01:01:51,349 --> 01:01:49,599 i'm going 1754 01:01:53,190 --> 01:01:51,359 you know because before i didn't know 1755 01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:53,200 where to go it was just kind of being 1756 01:01:57,750 --> 01:01:53,599 out 1757 01:01:59,349 --> 01:01:57,760 you experience these different levels 1758 01:02:00,549 --> 01:01:59,359 you know what they are and you can just 1759 01:02:02,789 --> 01:02:00,559 tap into it 1760 01:02:04,230 --> 01:02:02,799 you know and then you can but the the 1761 01:02:08,470 --> 01:02:04,240 the really interesting part 1762 01:02:09,910 --> 01:02:08,480 is that um when you get to some of these 1763 01:02:10,870 --> 01:02:09,920 these different levels even through 1764 01:02:13,270 --> 01:02:10,880 meditation 1765 01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:13,280 you are still feeling the same way you 1766 01:02:15,910 --> 01:02:14,640 know sometimes i even 1767 01:02:18,309 --> 01:02:15,920 you know get caught off guard and 1768 01:02:21,270 --> 01:02:18,319 thinking am i still high you know 1769 01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:21,280 i mean it's such a it's not um i'm using 1770 01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:21,680 this 1771 01:02:25,750 --> 01:02:24,000 these terms like high and drugs and all 1772 01:02:28,870 --> 01:02:25,760 this other stuff but it's such a 1773 01:02:30,630 --> 01:02:28,880 um it just doesn't do it justice 1774 01:02:32,789 --> 01:02:30,640 you know it just doesn't do it justice 1775 01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:32,799 what it actually you know provides 1776 01:02:36,789 --> 01:02:35,200 and sure you can you know abuse it i'm 1777 01:02:38,069 --> 01:02:36,799 not saying you all should go out there 1778 01:02:41,029 --> 01:02:38,079 and do whatever is out there 1779 01:02:41,430 --> 01:02:41,039 it's it was it felt like talking about 1780 01:02:44,950 --> 01:02:41,440 my 1781 01:02:47,589 --> 01:02:44,960 was drawn to do 1782 01:02:47,990 --> 01:02:47,599 you know was it was it was meant to be 1783 01:02:49,990 --> 01:02:48,000 that way 1784 01:02:51,910 --> 01:02:50,000 for me i can't say that that's going to 1785 01:02:52,870 --> 01:02:51,920 be the same for you and i don't i don't 1786 01:02:55,750 --> 01:02:52,880 recommend it 1787 01:02:56,630 --> 01:02:55,760 you know but the point was it was the 1788 01:02:59,510 --> 01:02:56,640 quickest way 1789 01:03:00,710 --> 01:02:59,520 to all of the sudden you know be like 1790 01:03:02,630 --> 01:03:00,720 that fish to realize 1791 01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:02,640 i'm in water there's all the stuff out 1792 01:03:07,430 --> 01:03:04,720 there so that i can just kind of start 1793 01:03:08,950 --> 01:03:07,440 thinking about and and processing of 1794 01:03:11,029 --> 01:03:08,960 what what else is out there 1795 01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:11,039 how do i deal with this you know come to 1796 01:03:14,549 --> 01:03:12,400 terms with certain things 1797 01:03:15,670 --> 01:03:14,559 because if you were to fish in the water 1798 01:03:17,510 --> 01:03:15,680 some people 1799 01:03:19,829 --> 01:03:17,520 realizing that they're in water could 1800 01:03:21,750 --> 01:03:19,839 devastate them could devastate them and 1801 01:03:23,270 --> 01:03:21,760 basically mess up the rest of their life 1802 01:03:24,230 --> 01:03:23,280 to to where they cannot continue 1803 01:03:25,910 --> 01:03:24,240 functioning 1804 01:03:27,349 --> 01:03:25,920 like like the fish that they've been 1805 01:03:30,309 --> 01:03:27,359 before you know 1806 01:03:31,510 --> 01:03:30,319 if you understand my analogy and so it 1807 01:03:33,990 --> 01:03:31,520 only a person 1808 01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:34,000 that knows itself you know him or 1809 01:03:37,430 --> 01:03:36,000 herself that knows how strong they are 1810 01:03:39,510 --> 01:03:37,440 how much they can take 1811 01:03:41,670 --> 01:03:39,520 can really kind of venture out to these 1812 01:03:45,029 --> 01:03:41,680 different you know realms because 1813 01:03:50,309 --> 01:03:45,039 um it blows your reality apart 1814 01:03:57,109 --> 01:03:54,309 okay um another question 1815 01:03:57,670 --> 01:03:57,119 hazel said and then oh and then any baby 1816 01:04:01,029 --> 01:03:57,680 yet no 1817 01:04:04,309 --> 01:04:01,039 the um it's a lot of pain 1818 01:04:06,230 --> 01:04:04,319 but not no baby yet it's i guess she's 1819 01:04:08,950 --> 01:04:06,240 just taking a sweet time to 1820 01:04:09,430 --> 01:04:08,960 to i guess be born whenever she's ready 1821 01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:09,440 um 1822 01:04:13,349 --> 01:04:11,760 we thought that you know just based on 1823 01:04:15,029 --> 01:04:13,359 the pains and all the ex 1824 01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:15,039 things that my wife had experienced with 1825 01:04:19,190 --> 01:04:17,200 she thought it would be time but 1826 01:04:20,950 --> 01:04:19,200 um it went to the doctor and it was 1827 01:04:24,309 --> 01:04:20,960 still all the same like it was 1828 01:04:27,510 --> 01:04:24,319 a week prior so i'm just gonna have to 1829 01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:27,520 you know endure it a bit longer and and 1830 01:04:39,109 --> 01:04:31,829 let me see if there's any other 1831 01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:56,870 oh some of these comments are funny 1832 01:05:00,230 --> 01:04:58,950 okay i'm not seeing any other any other 1833 01:05:04,549 --> 01:05:00,240 questions 1834 01:05:07,990 --> 01:05:04,559 so yeah you can uh for 1835 01:05:10,390 --> 01:05:08,000 any of you watching again you can put 1836 01:05:11,990 --> 01:05:10,400 three stars and ask a question that way 1837 01:05:15,349 --> 01:05:12,000 i'll interact with you there 1838 01:05:18,470 --> 01:05:15,359 or join the telegram group and 1839 01:05:21,109 --> 01:05:18,480 you can share your story verbally and 1840 01:05:21,510 --> 01:05:21,119 be heard by everyone else on on telegram 1841 01:05:24,789 --> 01:05:21,520 and 1842 01:05:27,990 --> 01:05:24,799 online watching but uh 1843 01:05:29,270 --> 01:05:28,000 nathan i'm sorry what was the what was 1844 01:05:29,829 --> 01:05:29,280 the other things that you wanted to 1845 01:05:31,829 --> 01:05:29,839 discuss 1846 01:05:37,910 --> 01:05:31,839 thanks for allowing me to go through the 1847 01:05:43,670 --> 01:05:41,510 oh i guess that was it uh 1848 01:05:45,109 --> 01:05:43,680 well yeah i guess so i think actually 1849 01:05:46,630 --> 01:05:45,119 you touched on a lot of topics there man 1850 01:05:48,950 --> 01:05:46,640 you went really fast too 1851 01:05:50,789 --> 01:05:48,960 so uh and you brought up some really 1852 01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:50,799 good points i think 1853 01:05:54,470 --> 01:05:52,799 what was it last week you were saying 1854 01:05:55,109 --> 01:05:54,480 something kind of tied into all this how 1855 01:05:57,589 --> 01:05:55,119 uh 1856 01:05:58,470 --> 01:05:57,599 what was that it was um oh yeah yeah 1857 01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:58,480 okay so 1858 01:06:01,349 --> 01:05:59,839 i think this i think this was you unless 1859 01:06:02,630 --> 01:06:01,359 i heard this somewhere else or thought 1860 01:06:04,630 --> 01:06:02,640 of it on my own but 1861 01:06:07,190 --> 01:06:04,640 so you remember how you're saying like 1862 01:06:09,670 --> 01:06:07,200 uh like let's say 20 years ago 1863 01:06:11,750 --> 01:06:09,680 you know let's it's like like 20 years 1864 01:06:14,390 --> 01:06:11,760 ago was roughly you know 1865 01:06:15,190 --> 01:06:14,400 when 9 11 happened like had they done 1866 01:06:18,230 --> 01:06:15,200 the pandemic 1867 01:06:19,829 --> 01:06:18,240 pandemic then you know like uh even 1868 01:06:22,630 --> 01:06:19,839 people like us probably would have been 1869 01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:22,640 more a lot much more fearful but now 1870 01:06:25,190 --> 01:06:24,000 it's like we saw right through it from 1871 01:06:26,230 --> 01:06:25,200 the very beginning the people that are 1872 01:06:27,910 --> 01:06:26,240 listening to the chat just saw 1873 01:06:30,069 --> 01:06:27,920 right through it you know like it's not 1874 01:06:31,589 --> 01:06:30,079 it isn't i mean it isn't really causing 1875 01:06:31,990 --> 01:06:31,599 any fear at all in me it's just it's 1876 01:06:33,270 --> 01:06:32,000 laughable 1877 01:06:35,190 --> 01:06:33,280 it's it's kind of you know it's almost 1878 01:06:37,109 --> 01:06:35,200 comedic i mean except that they're using 1879 01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:37,119 it to do a lot of bad stuff but just how 1880 01:06:41,829 --> 01:06:40,000 ridiculous their the whole uh thing is 1881 01:06:44,789 --> 01:06:41,839 it's it's very it's like 1882 01:06:45,910 --> 01:06:44,799 so that alone is kind of a just a sign 1883 01:06:46,870 --> 01:06:45,920 that shows we're heading in the right 1884 01:06:48,630 --> 01:06:46,880 direction you know and 1885 01:06:50,150 --> 01:06:48,640 i before and just before i sign off here 1886 01:06:51,589 --> 01:06:50,160 i did want to just say you know it's 1887 01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:51,599 that sort of uh 1888 01:06:54,789 --> 01:06:53,520 that that positivity or that lack of 1889 01:06:57,589 --> 01:06:54,799 fear that is going to be 1890 01:06:58,870 --> 01:06:57,599 so important in these right now in these 1891 01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:58,880 coming days you know because like 1892 01:07:01,829 --> 01:07:00,480 like you were saying like or you 1893 01:07:02,950 --> 01:07:01,839 mentioned you know your parents like you 1894 01:07:04,230 --> 01:07:02,960 had this experience you thought it was 1895 01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:04,240 awesome and then you went back and 1896 01:07:07,029 --> 01:07:05,280 talked to them 1897 01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:07,039 and they were still right there stuck in 1898 01:07:09,990 --> 01:07:08,960 and they they didn't have they didn't 1899 01:07:11,990 --> 01:07:10,000 they may have shared that experience 1900 01:07:12,309 --> 01:07:12,000 with you on some other level but they 1901 01:07:14,069 --> 01:07:12,319 still 1902 01:07:16,390 --> 01:07:14,079 chose to live the lives they're living 1903 01:07:18,789 --> 01:07:16,400 here in 3d and and 1904 01:07:21,029 --> 01:07:18,799 um well it's their it's their agreement 1905 01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:21,039 they're not just going to stop it 1906 01:07:24,390 --> 01:07:22,480 that's right that's right but now if 1907 01:07:26,710 --> 01:07:24,400 they start how 1908 01:07:27,750 --> 01:07:26,720 crazy things are getting uh there's a 1909 01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:27,760 good chance they're gonna be reaching 1910 01:07:30,069 --> 01:07:28,960 out to you and saying you know you know 1911 01:07:31,270 --> 01:07:30,079 all that stuff you've been talking about 1912 01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:31,280 can you tell me more or 1913 01:07:34,230 --> 01:07:32,640 what did you say actually i did want to 1914 01:07:35,589 --> 01:07:34,240 ask you you made mention that you said 1915 01:07:36,470 --> 01:07:35,599 at least at least a couple times a week 1916 01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:36,480 or 1917 01:07:43,029 --> 01:07:42,400 they're starting to ask you questions 1918 01:07:46,789 --> 01:07:43,039 like 1919 01:07:49,829 --> 01:07:46,799 often now i'm assuming 1920 01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:49,839 yeah we uh you know a text message 1921 01:07:55,750 --> 01:07:53,440 uh phone call um even just uh 1922 01:07:58,870 --> 01:07:55,760 yesterday no was it yesterday the day 1923 01:08:03,029 --> 01:08:00,950 trying to keep my day straight uh no my 1924 01:08:05,829 --> 01:08:03,039 friend my friend called and he's like 1925 01:08:07,029 --> 01:08:05,839 um i listened to coast to coast you know 1926 01:08:10,069 --> 01:08:07,039 a.m i was like oh 1927 01:08:11,829 --> 01:08:10,079 that's good you know um anyone that ever 1928 01:08:13,190 --> 01:08:11,839 starts out in this it's like a coaster 1929 01:08:15,430 --> 01:08:13,200 cause it's like a must 1930 01:08:16,390 --> 01:08:15,440 and he was talking about it was so 1931 01:08:19,590 --> 01:08:16,400 excited that 1932 01:08:20,229 --> 01:08:19,600 this one guest that was on was talking 1933 01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:20,239 about 1934 01:08:25,430 --> 01:08:23,520 a alien or a contact or ufo sighting or 1935 01:08:28,470 --> 01:08:25,440 something along those lines 1936 01:08:30,149 --> 01:08:28,480 in moselle missouri where he lives 1937 01:08:31,669 --> 01:08:30,159 and he was just beside himself trying to 1938 01:08:35,110 --> 01:08:31,679 tell me about it you know 1939 01:08:37,349 --> 01:08:35,120 and so um you know where 1940 01:08:38,950 --> 01:08:37,359 he would he would before i mean for as 1941 01:08:39,669 --> 01:08:38,960 long as i've known him we'll always just 1942 01:08:42,070 --> 01:08:39,679 kind of 1943 01:08:43,669 --> 01:08:42,080 uh touch touch on the subject in the 1944 01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:43,679 sense of like well 1945 01:08:48,149 --> 01:08:46,000 you know if there you know if there is 1946 01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:48,159 no other alien life out there it'll be 1947 01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:49,920 awful waste of space you know but then 1948 01:08:52,070 --> 01:08:51,520 that's it we'll move on to something 1949 01:08:54,470 --> 01:08:52,080 else 1950 01:08:56,709 --> 01:08:54,480 this was like a much longer conversation 1951 01:08:58,709 --> 01:08:56,719 to where he was like almost enthusiastic 1952 01:09:00,470 --> 01:08:58,719 about it you know and so i don't know if 1953 01:09:02,870 --> 01:09:00,480 this is his little beginning 1954 01:09:03,590 --> 01:09:02,880 to go down the route that he wants to go 1955 01:09:05,510 --> 01:09:03,600 and 1956 01:09:06,950 --> 01:09:05,520 realize like wow this is happening in my 1957 01:09:09,910 --> 01:09:06,960 area where i live 1958 01:09:10,470 --> 01:09:09,920 you know and and to kind of start his 1959 01:09:12,550 --> 01:09:10,480 journey 1960 01:09:14,229 --> 01:09:12,560 you know even if he doesn't but he still 1961 01:09:16,870 --> 01:09:14,239 it just cracks me up you know did 1962 01:09:18,149 --> 01:09:16,880 you know they know they can come to me 1963 01:09:18,630 --> 01:09:18,159 you know and they call me and they're 1964 01:09:20,550 --> 01:09:18,640 like 1965 01:09:22,149 --> 01:09:20,560 you need to listen to this person you 1966 01:09:23,669 --> 01:09:22,159 know and they they talked about this 1967 01:09:26,390 --> 01:09:23,679 awesome encounter and 1968 01:09:27,110 --> 01:09:26,400 and i'm just like if you only knew you 1969 01:09:30,309 --> 01:09:27,120 know 1970 01:09:33,269 --> 01:09:30,319 and um anyway so 1971 01:09:36,149 --> 01:09:33,279 the the it's it's all these different 1972 01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:36,159 people in my life that i never thought 1973 01:09:40,309 --> 01:09:38,880 would ever be interested in it but it's 1974 01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:40,319 it's a delight to see 1975 01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:43,120 their progression and and so on and i'm 1976 01:09:45,669 --> 01:09:43,440 not 1977 01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:45,679 like saying it in this arrogant way that 1978 01:09:49,030 --> 01:09:48,000 they somehow were in this darkness you 1979 01:09:51,189 --> 01:09:49,040 know it's like it just 1980 01:09:52,149 --> 01:09:51,199 i would have wished for them to be you 1981 01:09:53,829 --> 01:09:52,159 know 1982 01:09:55,990 --> 01:09:53,839 for us to have more in common to talk 1983 01:09:57,590 --> 01:09:56,000 about but uh it's totally 1984 01:09:59,270 --> 01:09:57,600 weird how it happened you know one of my 1985 01:10:00,070 --> 01:09:59,280 co-workers i mean it happened through 1986 01:10:03,189 --> 01:10:00,080 different ways 1987 01:10:05,669 --> 01:10:03,199 you know um her girlfriend 1988 01:10:08,149 --> 01:10:05,679 she um you know when they got when they 1989 01:10:10,149 --> 01:10:08,159 got together was like big into ufos 1990 01:10:12,229 --> 01:10:10,159 and i don't know because you know the 1991 01:10:14,070 --> 01:10:12,239 love or whatever the reason is now she's 1992 01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:14,080 big into ufos you know and watching 1993 01:10:16,229 --> 01:10:15,679 documentaries and all kinds of other 1994 01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:16,239 stuff 1995 01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:17,920 to where before she would just be like 1996 01:10:22,709 --> 01:10:19,920 oh that's interesting and that's it 1997 01:10:24,149 --> 01:10:22,719 you know so i mean it it happens in all 1998 01:10:26,790 --> 01:10:24,159 these different ways it it 1999 01:10:28,470 --> 01:10:26,800 again not necessary because i've 2000 01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:28,480 realized it's such a 2001 01:10:32,149 --> 01:10:31,520 private journey for for everyone that 2002 01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:32,159 has 2003 01:10:37,270 --> 01:10:35,199 had more than beyond contact you know 2004 01:10:39,510 --> 01:10:37,280 uh it's such a private journey to where 2005 01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:39,520 you realize like this entire reality is 2006 01:10:42,870 --> 01:10:40,320 about you 2007 01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:42,880 and how are you going to live it and 2008 01:10:46,790 --> 01:10:44,880 which direction are you going to take it 2009 01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:46,800 you know to where when you realize that 2010 01:10:49,270 --> 01:10:48,719 it you don't need to drag anyone else 2011 01:10:52,149 --> 01:10:49,280 with you 2012 01:10:54,390 --> 01:10:52,159 you know you just you know go about 2013 01:10:55,669 --> 01:10:54,400 exploring the way you you think you need 2014 01:10:58,390 --> 01:10:55,679 to explore it as 2015 01:10:59,270 --> 01:10:58,400 that individual being of of the oneness 2016 01:11:01,590 --> 01:10:59,280 that you are 2017 01:11:02,390 --> 01:11:01,600 you know uh whoever you know nathan 2018 01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,400 fabrice 2019 01:11:06,550 --> 01:11:04,560 you know isa peacekeeper you know 2020 01:11:09,430 --> 01:11:06,560 whoever you know is out there 2021 01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:09,440 um that is your individual choice in in 2022 01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:10,960 this journey so 2023 01:11:14,070 --> 01:11:13,440 um if you try to drag other people in it 2024 01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:14,080 then you 2025 01:11:17,669 --> 01:11:16,480 you're you're still hiding from certain 2026 01:11:20,790 --> 01:11:17,679 things that you you 2027 01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:20,800 you're not stopping to take a breath and 2028 01:11:24,310 --> 01:11:22,560 kind of take in and see how does this 2029 01:11:26,149 --> 01:11:24,320 apply to me why is this 2030 01:11:28,390 --> 01:11:26,159 why are these experiences happening to 2031 01:11:30,310 --> 01:11:28,400 me why do i keep seeing the same 2032 01:11:31,830 --> 01:11:30,320 you know one one one why do i keep 2033 01:11:33,270 --> 01:11:31,840 seeing the same numbers 2034 01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:33,280 why is this happening why is that 2035 01:11:37,030 --> 01:11:35,760 happening there's so much exploration to 2036 01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:37,040 be done on your own 2037 01:11:41,270 --> 01:11:39,280 that opens this whole new window of 2038 01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:41,280 understanding that is so exciting that 2039 01:11:43,270 --> 01:11:41,760 when you 2040 01:11:45,910 --> 01:11:43,280 start going down that road you don't 2041 01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:45,920 need anyone else you know you you just 2042 01:11:49,910 --> 01:11:47,760 you just realize like it's exciting 2043 01:11:53,110 --> 01:11:49,920 doing what you what you have to do 2044 01:12:01,110 --> 01:11:53,120 and it's it's uh it doesn't have to be a 2045 01:12:05,030 --> 01:12:02,790 so nathan i'm sorry i hope that answer 2046 01:12:05,750 --> 01:12:05,040 your question it's it's happening fairly 2047 01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:05,760 often 2048 01:12:10,070 --> 01:12:09,040 surprisingly yeah that's it's fantastic 2049 01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:10,080 it's fanta and it's all 2050 01:12:12,950 --> 01:12:11,440 and it's getting i mean it's always been 2051 01:12:14,149 --> 01:12:12,960 very important and it's always and i've 2052 01:12:16,229 --> 01:12:14,159 always felt that's 2053 01:12:17,189 --> 01:12:16,239 sort of been part of my purpose in life 2054 01:12:19,110 --> 01:12:17,199 i always had just sort of 2055 01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:19,120 knowing that that if anything i just 2056 01:12:23,270 --> 01:12:20,560 sort of need to uh 2057 01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:23,280 you know be present be an example or be 2058 01:12:25,510 --> 01:12:24,000 uh 2059 01:12:27,110 --> 01:12:25,520 like more so now is like like the whole 2060 01:12:28,870 --> 01:12:27,120 thing with the the fear of not having 2061 01:12:30,149 --> 01:12:28,880 fear like just the simple fact that 2062 01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:30,159 probably most people are on this call 2063 01:12:33,669 --> 01:12:32,560 can just see right through all the bs 2064 01:12:36,310 --> 01:12:33,679 that's going on 2065 01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:36,320 and whereas other people are starting to 2066 01:12:38,229 --> 01:12:37,920 say like hmm something's not right here 2067 01:12:41,350 --> 01:12:38,239 or 2068 01:12:42,070 --> 01:12:41,360 become like let's say social security 2069 01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:42,080 and all these other 2070 01:12:45,350 --> 01:12:43,520 these things they just they start to 2071 01:12:47,750 --> 01:12:45,360 crumble and the the uh 2072 01:12:48,550 --> 01:12:47,760 the uh or whatever they're doing the 2073 01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:48,560 whole medical thing 2074 01:12:51,990 --> 01:12:50,000 everything is starting to fail people 2075 01:12:53,830 --> 01:12:52,000 the things that they were told are 2076 01:12:55,590 --> 01:12:53,840 infallible and that are immutable and 2077 01:12:57,830 --> 01:12:55,600 that are the end-all be-all 2078 01:12:59,189 --> 01:12:57,840 uh power of the unit or the power of 2079 01:13:00,229 --> 01:12:59,199 this earth you know the us government 2080 01:13:01,910 --> 01:13:00,239 whatever once 2081 01:13:03,430 --> 01:13:01,920 now they're starting to see these things 2082 01:13:06,149 --> 01:13:03,440 for what they really are 2083 01:13:07,510 --> 01:13:06,159 uh it's good for people that have been 2084 01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:07,520 in this quite a while you know for like 2085 01:13:10,149 --> 01:13:09,280 let's say 20 years now like myself and 2086 01:13:13,350 --> 01:13:10,159 you and 2087 01:13:13,990 --> 01:13:13,360 and it's uh uh like we're we're not 2088 01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:14,000 freaking out 2089 01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:15,360 we're not in fear and they're like 2090 01:13:23,830 --> 01:13:21,430 talking about that i don't know about 2091 01:13:25,030 --> 01:13:23,840 you nathan and and how it was 2092 01:13:26,229 --> 01:13:25,040 where you were because you said you were 2093 01:13:28,390 --> 01:13:26,239 in colombia there for a while you're 2094 01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:28,400 back in san luis right 2095 01:13:30,709 --> 01:13:29,600 yeah yeah and that was that was the next 2096 01:13:32,310 --> 01:13:30,719 point i was gonna be like just being 2097 01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:32,320 like i love being putting myself 2098 01:13:35,669 --> 01:13:33,600 myself in situations like that because 2099 01:13:37,030 --> 01:13:35,679 in in south america like they tried to 2100 01:13:37,669 --> 01:13:37,040 get people to stop selling stuff on the 2101 01:13:39,510 --> 01:13:37,679 street but 2102 01:13:41,350 --> 01:13:39,520 it's impossible it's so ingrained in 2103 01:13:42,550 --> 01:13:41,360 latin american culture to just if you 2104 01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:42,560 need money you go to the street you set 2105 01:13:44,470 --> 01:13:43,679 up a little stand you start selling 2106 01:13:46,390 --> 01:13:44,480 things and 2107 01:13:47,830 --> 01:13:46,400 it's just so many people packed shoulder 2108 01:13:48,870 --> 01:13:47,840 to shoulder to people's places 2109 01:13:50,709 --> 01:13:48,880 obviously they're not worried about 2110 01:13:51,830 --> 01:13:50,719 covet or some virus because they're just 2111 01:13:53,189 --> 01:13:51,840 going about their life 2112 01:13:54,709 --> 01:13:53,199 uh you can tell there are there's a lot 2113 01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:54,719 more fear there because a lot a lot of 2114 01:13:58,630 --> 01:13:55,440 people 2115 01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:58,640 media even though they know like in 2116 01:14:02,070 --> 01:14:00,400 colombia there's only one media outlet 2117 01:14:03,590 --> 01:14:02,080 that isn't owned by the government 2118 01:14:04,870 --> 01:14:03,600 and it still is very very biased because 2119 01:14:05,189 --> 01:14:04,880 it's owned by one of the richer families 2120 01:14:07,350 --> 01:14:05,199 in 2121 01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:07,360 colombia they know it's all bs they know 2122 01:14:09,430 --> 01:14:08,400 it's owned by the government but yet 2123 01:14:12,229 --> 01:14:09,440 they still listen to it and 2124 01:14:13,750 --> 01:14:12,239 rely on it for a source of truth um and 2125 01:14:15,270 --> 01:14:13,760 so you see a lot more people you know 2126 01:14:17,430 --> 01:14:15,280 wearing the face mask so when i'm this 2127 01:14:18,950 --> 01:14:17,440 tall gringo blond-haired green eyes 2128 01:14:20,950 --> 01:14:18,960 uh not wearing a fast mask and just 2129 01:14:21,750 --> 01:14:20,960 smiling and and being happy and laughing 2130 01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:21,760 with you like 2131 01:14:24,709 --> 01:14:23,280 it uh you can tell there's just sort of 2132 01:14:25,669 --> 01:14:24,719 an energy there and people are drawn to 2133 01:14:28,870 --> 01:14:25,679 that you know when they 2134 01:14:30,149 --> 01:14:28,880 see me not in fear and i feel like 2135 01:14:31,350 --> 01:14:30,159 more so even if you if you don't know 2136 01:14:32,950 --> 01:14:31,360 what to do if you don't know how to help 2137 01:14:35,110 --> 01:14:32,960 during this crazy time 2138 01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:35,120 just do that just hold that energy of of 2139 01:14:38,630 --> 01:14:36,960 peace and love and optimism 2140 01:14:39,830 --> 01:14:38,640 you know and it seems to be helping i 2141 01:14:40,790 --> 01:14:39,840 know it's helping me like it's helped me 2142 01:14:41,990 --> 01:14:40,800 in my daily life i 2143 01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:42,000 i love it like i've been trying to go 2144 01:14:45,270 --> 01:14:43,280 out as much as possible even here in 2145 01:14:47,590 --> 01:14:45,280 some back home in st louis 2146 01:14:49,189 --> 01:14:47,600 and uh you know i have people like come 2147 01:14:50,950 --> 01:14:49,199 up to me and sort of coin me it's like 2148 01:14:52,229 --> 01:14:50,960 what sort of like basically what like 2149 01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:52,239 you know like to 2150 01:14:55,270 --> 01:14:53,360 to summarize that they basically say 2151 01:14:57,510 --> 01:14:55,280 what's your deal man how are you so 2152 01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:57,520 optimistic and happy and and the other 2153 01:14:59,910 --> 01:14:59,280 day my this guy said you're just so 2154 01:15:01,189 --> 01:14:59,920 genuine 2155 01:15:02,550 --> 01:15:01,199 i love it when people say stuff like 2156 01:15:04,149 --> 01:15:02,560 that it's just it's just like just be 2157 01:15:05,830 --> 01:15:04,159 yourself just be yourself 2158 01:15:07,990 --> 01:15:05,840 and don't fear and be happy and it's 2159 01:15:11,990 --> 01:15:08,000 helping i think it's helping a lot 2160 01:15:15,110 --> 01:15:12,000 yeah right but you know it's um 2161 01:15:18,550 --> 01:15:15,120 um what what was surprising to me was 2162 01:15:21,270 --> 01:15:18,560 this um were talking about 2163 01:15:21,910 --> 01:15:21,280 you know where it became a certain 2164 01:15:25,510 --> 01:15:21,920 attack 2165 01:15:28,630 --> 01:15:25,520 where 2166 01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:28,640 you were not being allowed 2167 01:15:32,390 --> 01:15:31,600 anymore like within even friends or or 2168 01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:32,400 family like 2169 01:15:35,590 --> 01:15:34,400 i don't know actually i don't know if i 2170 01:15:38,390 --> 01:15:35,600 told you like you know 2171 01:15:40,070 --> 01:15:38,400 very try not to say her name but do you 2172 01:15:42,950 --> 01:15:40,080 remember the person we all went to to 2173 01:15:45,669 --> 01:15:42,960 the very first ufo conference in 2012 2174 01:15:46,310 --> 01:15:45,679 you know it was uh three of us and her 2175 01:15:48,070 --> 01:15:46,320 yes 2176 01:15:50,630 --> 01:15:48,080 yeah i'm not on speaking terms with her 2177 01:15:54,950 --> 01:15:53,510 oh wow okay yeah because the the what's 2178 01:15:58,229 --> 01:15:54,960 behind them 2179 01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:58,239 too private say that again 2180 01:16:01,830 --> 01:16:00,719 is there a story behind the reason for 2181 01:16:05,510 --> 01:16:01,840 that oh yeah 2182 01:16:06,310 --> 01:16:05,520 what it was is when this different stuff 2183 01:16:09,669 --> 01:16:06,320 was you know 2184 01:16:10,149 --> 01:16:09,679 because for me um having having gone 2185 01:16:12,310 --> 01:16:10,159 through 2186 01:16:14,229 --> 01:16:12,320 you know uh even for a short period of 2187 01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:14,239 time and embossing when the war broke 2188 01:16:18,630 --> 01:16:15,920 out 2189 01:16:20,149 --> 01:16:18,640 you know you i saw a lot of death 2190 01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:20,159 friends that i've known they're just 2191 01:16:23,669 --> 01:16:21,920 dragged out in the streets and 2192 01:16:25,590 --> 01:16:23,679 you know shot in front of from the 2193 01:16:27,590 --> 01:16:25,600 houses entire families lined up 2194 01:16:29,430 --> 01:16:27,600 you know and then the other gruesome 2195 01:16:31,830 --> 01:16:29,440 stories of of rape 2196 01:16:33,669 --> 01:16:31,840 and all these things that are you know 2197 01:16:36,950 --> 01:16:33,679 just um 2198 01:16:39,590 --> 01:16:36,960 you know just the the worst uh 2199 01:16:40,229 --> 01:16:39,600 human side that you can possibly imagine 2200 01:16:42,310 --> 01:16:40,239 right 2201 01:16:44,310 --> 01:16:42,320 anyone that's that that's experienced 2202 01:16:47,030 --> 01:16:44,320 that that's seen it for themselves 2203 01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:47,040 they don't take those things um for 2204 01:16:51,189 --> 01:16:48,080 granted 2205 01:16:51,750 --> 01:16:51,199 so to say that something something is 2206 01:16:54,149 --> 01:16:51,760 rape 2207 01:16:56,229 --> 01:16:54,159 it's not something you come out and 2208 01:16:59,189 --> 01:16:56,239 immediately label it as that because 2209 01:16:59,830 --> 01:16:59,199 this such a astrocity to where you know 2210 01:17:02,950 --> 01:16:59,840 um 2211 01:17:05,510 --> 01:17:02,960 you know you don't accuse somebody of 2212 01:17:06,950 --> 01:17:05,520 of that just willy-nilly just kind of 2213 01:17:08,310 --> 01:17:06,960 calling it out like it's 2214 01:17:10,470 --> 01:17:08,320 like you just gave him an apple or 2215 01:17:12,550 --> 01:17:10,480 something you know 2216 01:17:14,229 --> 01:17:12,560 and death and all the all the things 2217 01:17:15,910 --> 01:17:14,239 that that have happened you know true 2218 01:17:17,350 --> 01:17:15,920 anger when somebody hates you so much 2219 01:17:20,630 --> 01:17:17,360 they just want to kill you 2220 01:17:21,189 --> 01:17:20,640 right and what was noticing is that all 2221 01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:21,199 these 2222 01:17:26,550 --> 01:17:24,239 like you know 2223 01:17:28,229 --> 01:17:26,560 having having you know lived in germany 2224 01:17:29,510 --> 01:17:28,239 when we first got there 2225 01:17:32,229 --> 01:17:29,520 and you can look all this different 2226 01:17:35,510 --> 01:17:32,239 stuff uh online when you first got there 2227 01:17:39,270 --> 01:17:35,520 um we originally were gonna flee to to 2228 01:17:41,830 --> 01:17:39,280 um to sweden because as you fleeing in 2229 01:17:43,110 --> 01:17:41,840 this convoy of families and husbands and 2230 01:17:46,070 --> 01:17:43,120 wives and children 2231 01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:46,080 you know um you kind of you know you you 2232 01:17:48,790 --> 01:17:47,280 start out by yourself and 2233 01:17:50,630 --> 01:17:48,800 you see someone else at the train 2234 01:17:52,310 --> 01:17:50,640 station and you recognize your fellow 2235 01:17:53,750 --> 01:17:52,320 countrymen and then you get together and 2236 01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:53,760 then as you go on 2237 01:17:57,669 --> 01:17:57,040 you pick up a crowd and so the the story 2238 01:17:59,510 --> 01:17:57,679 was that 2239 01:18:02,070 --> 01:17:59,520 you know prior one of our neighbors they 2240 01:18:04,229 --> 01:18:02,080 had said okay we're trying to get out 2241 01:18:05,270 --> 01:18:04,239 which we heard sweden was accepting 2242 01:18:06,870 --> 01:18:05,280 refugees so 2243 01:18:09,110 --> 01:18:06,880 they're gonna you know go to sweden so 2244 01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:09,120 everyone is like okay let's go to sweden 2245 01:18:13,030 --> 01:18:11,199 well we got to sweden they kept us at 2246 01:18:14,870 --> 01:18:13,040 the port for about four days 2247 01:18:16,149 --> 01:18:14,880 where only i think my dad and one other 2248 01:18:18,709 --> 01:18:16,159 person was allowed to 2249 01:18:19,669 --> 01:18:18,719 get go with i think an escort by a 2250 01:18:22,709 --> 01:18:19,679 police officer 2251 01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:22,719 if i'm not mistaken to go buy food and 2252 01:18:25,990 --> 01:18:23,920 then bring it back for 2253 01:18:27,830 --> 01:18:26,000 the families and the kids and then after 2254 01:18:29,750 --> 01:18:27,840 about four days or so they said no sorry 2255 01:18:31,830 --> 01:18:29,760 we can't accept you we had to go back to 2256 01:18:35,030 --> 01:18:31,840 the original departure point which was 2257 01:18:38,709 --> 01:18:35,040 um which was the 2258 01:18:40,630 --> 01:18:38,719 uh rustoc germany you know and um 2259 01:18:42,470 --> 01:18:40,640 so there we kind of basically were 2260 01:18:44,470 --> 01:18:42,480 begging you know to to take us 2261 01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:44,480 in but the thing is when you're a 2262 01:18:47,270 --> 01:18:45,760 refugee you know 2263 01:18:49,510 --> 01:18:47,280 there's all kinds of people there with 2264 01:18:50,149 --> 01:18:49,520 you and when you don't have a country of 2265 01:18:52,149 --> 01:18:50,159 the sudden 2266 01:18:53,590 --> 01:18:52,159 you have no protection of any source 2267 01:18:57,430 --> 01:18:53,600 you're just kind of out there 2268 01:18:59,350 --> 01:18:57,440 and so you try to make yourself 2269 01:19:00,790 --> 01:18:59,360 be viewed by the other people that i am 2270 01:19:02,950 --> 01:19:00,800 not a threat to you 2271 01:19:04,470 --> 01:19:02,960 you know i will not be a burden to you 2272 01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:04,480 please just give me a shelter 2273 01:19:07,830 --> 01:19:06,719 somewhere to stay and i promise i will 2274 01:19:09,350 --> 01:19:07,840 work and earn 2275 01:19:11,669 --> 01:19:09,360 everything that you you know that you 2276 01:19:13,669 --> 01:19:11,679 give me and that is the mindset that 2277 01:19:15,350 --> 01:19:13,679 that i remember even this is eight you 2278 01:19:17,830 --> 01:19:15,360 know eight-year-old child 2279 01:19:18,630 --> 01:19:17,840 you know to to have had to not be 2280 01:19:20,790 --> 01:19:18,640 perceived 2281 01:19:21,669 --> 01:19:20,800 as some kind of threat if i truly want 2282 01:19:24,709 --> 01:19:21,679 some help 2283 01:19:26,950 --> 01:19:24,719 you know and so um irregardless to that 2284 01:19:28,229 --> 01:19:26,960 i constantly had you know experiences 2285 01:19:30,149 --> 01:19:28,239 with nazis where they 2286 01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:30,159 uh it was like 10 days after we moved 2287 01:19:33,750 --> 01:19:31,679 out of this building and rushed out 2288 01:19:35,189 --> 01:19:33,760 they uh they burned it down because 2289 01:19:37,430 --> 01:19:35,199 there was a huge influx of 2290 01:19:38,709 --> 01:19:37,440 of basically refugees to where they 2291 01:19:40,790 --> 01:19:38,719 needed um 2292 01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:40,800 you know the the local population was 2293 01:19:44,070 --> 01:19:42,400 fearful like what's going on this is 2294 01:19:47,110 --> 01:19:44,080 germany being overtaken 2295 01:19:49,189 --> 01:19:47,120 you know and then later on in the same 2296 01:19:51,110 --> 01:19:49,199 building where we moved to schwerin 2297 01:19:53,189 --> 01:19:51,120 where i used to live 2298 01:19:54,470 --> 01:19:53,199 they burned down the second floor you 2299 01:19:55,430 --> 01:19:54,480 know they're basically you know 2300 01:19:59,110 --> 01:19:55,440 screaming 2301 01:20:01,510 --> 01:19:59,120 um uh deutsche fedor uh deutschland for 2302 01:20:04,149 --> 01:20:01,520 deutsche house landed house which means 2303 01:20:04,709 --> 01:20:04,159 germany for germans foreigners out you 2304 01:20:07,110 --> 01:20:04,719 know 2305 01:20:07,830 --> 01:20:07,120 the point is i've experienced true 2306 01:20:09,669 --> 01:20:07,840 racism 2307 01:20:10,950 --> 01:20:09,679 you know now before i continue saying 2308 01:20:12,709 --> 01:20:10,960 this this is 2309 01:20:14,070 --> 01:20:12,719 still there's all these things that 2310 01:20:16,870 --> 01:20:14,080 happen 2311 01:20:17,990 --> 01:20:16,880 compared to the kindness and the true 2312 01:20:20,629 --> 01:20:18,000 nature of the german 2313 01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:20,639 people those are tiny minuscule 2314 01:20:25,189 --> 01:20:22,400 experiences that 2315 01:20:26,550 --> 01:20:25,199 they're just buried by the kindness of 2316 01:20:28,629 --> 01:20:26,560 the of the germans 2317 01:20:30,790 --> 01:20:28,639 you know and so i want you to understand 2318 01:20:32,310 --> 01:20:30,800 that that germany is not this you know 2319 01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:32,320 racist investors place 2320 01:20:36,709 --> 01:20:33,760 you know even though i'm giving you 2321 01:20:40,310 --> 01:20:36,719 these short you know experiences so 2322 01:20:43,189 --> 01:20:40,320 to simply label somebody 2323 01:20:44,470 --> 01:20:43,199 you know racist just because they don't 2324 01:20:46,950 --> 01:20:44,480 agree with you 2325 01:20:48,149 --> 01:20:46,960 or just because of of you might have a 2326 01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:48,159 different opinion 2327 01:20:51,910 --> 01:20:49,760 but they can't get you to change your 2328 01:20:54,790 --> 01:20:51,920 opinion so they label you racist 2329 01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:54,800 you know that is absolutely absurd to me 2330 01:20:56,950 --> 01:20:55,360 and so 2331 01:20:58,550 --> 01:20:56,960 that's what she was kind of doing i'm 2332 01:20:59,990 --> 01:20:58,560 sorry nathan i'm kind of taking a long 2333 01:21:02,310 --> 01:21:00,000 time to get to my point 2334 01:21:04,070 --> 01:21:02,320 on her different facebook posts where i 2335 01:21:05,350 --> 01:21:04,080 was just like what are you doing 2336 01:21:07,910 --> 01:21:05,360 you know it's like you can't what are 2337 01:21:09,990 --> 01:21:07,920 you talking about there's you know 2338 01:21:11,270 --> 01:21:10,000 the kind of racism that she's like 2339 01:21:13,669 --> 01:21:11,280 making it sounds like it's 2340 01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:13,679 rampant throughout the united states 2341 01:21:16,550 --> 01:21:15,040 it's like everywhere i've been if 2342 01:21:18,870 --> 01:21:16,560 i haven't been a refugee i've been a 2343 01:21:19,990 --> 01:21:18,880 foreigner and the most accepting country 2344 01:21:22,550 --> 01:21:20,000 you know in the on the 2345 01:21:23,189 --> 01:21:22,560 on the earth you know i i haven't been 2346 01:21:26,470 --> 01:21:23,199 to 2347 01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:26,480 bosnia 2348 01:21:29,510 --> 01:21:28,480 have seen germany for myself and some 2349 01:21:31,189 --> 01:21:29,520 you know many 2350 01:21:32,229 --> 01:21:31,199 have been exposed to many cultures and 2351 01:21:33,430 --> 01:21:32,239 people there and then living in the 2352 01:21:36,070 --> 01:21:33,440 united states 2353 01:21:37,030 --> 01:21:36,080 it was like if you're a hard-working 2354 01:21:39,750 --> 01:21:37,040 person 2355 01:21:41,430 --> 01:21:39,760 you know your race didn't matter you 2356 01:21:42,229 --> 01:21:41,440 know it's like if you can prove you can 2357 01:21:44,790 --> 01:21:42,239 do the job 2358 01:21:46,229 --> 01:21:44,800 you got the job you know if you you know 2359 01:21:47,990 --> 01:21:46,239 locked out if the other people they were 2360 01:21:49,189 --> 01:21:48,000 competing you might not get the job but 2361 01:21:51,270 --> 01:21:49,199 then you try again 2362 01:21:52,709 --> 01:21:51,280 but for me to constantly then as a 2363 01:21:54,149 --> 01:21:52,719 foreigner go back and say 2364 01:21:55,990 --> 01:21:54,159 well you're not giving me a job because 2365 01:21:57,430 --> 01:21:56,000 i'm a foreigner or you're not you're not 2366 01:21:59,830 --> 01:21:57,440 treating me fairly because i'm a 2367 01:22:01,590 --> 01:21:59,840 foreigner it's unacceptable to me 2368 01:22:03,030 --> 01:22:01,600 you know because that's what a victim 2369 01:22:04,950 --> 01:22:03,040 does you know 2370 01:22:08,629 --> 01:22:04,960 and so even with all the that i've 2371 01:22:12,310 --> 01:22:11,669 what did you say yeah are you saying 2372 01:22:13,510 --> 01:22:12,320 that that's 2373 01:22:14,709 --> 01:22:13,520 that's what you experienced here in 2374 01:22:16,310 --> 01:22:14,719 america that that if you're a hard 2375 01:22:17,910 --> 01:22:16,320 worker it doesn't matter your race or 2376 01:22:20,629 --> 01:22:17,920 was that in germany or that both 2377 01:22:21,590 --> 01:22:20,639 no it and and well i mean i was uh i was 2378 01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:21,600 14 when we 2379 01:22:27,510 --> 01:22:24,960 when we left germany so my working and 2380 01:22:29,030 --> 01:22:27,520 and you know the work joining the 2381 01:22:29,830 --> 01:22:29,040 workforce happened here in the united 2382 01:22:32,709 --> 01:22:29,840 states 2383 01:22:33,910 --> 01:22:32,719 you know and if anything i always you 2384 01:22:35,990 --> 01:22:33,920 know i've always been 2385 01:22:37,270 --> 01:22:36,000 in a diverse group of people all the 2386 01:22:40,229 --> 01:22:37,280 time you know 2387 01:22:40,629 --> 01:22:40,239 and even when i moved from saint louis 2388 01:22:42,790 --> 01:22:40,639 out 2389 01:22:44,390 --> 01:22:42,800 to the country you know which is 50 2390 01:22:46,470 --> 01:22:44,400 miles south of saint louis 2391 01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:46,480 you know where all the quote-unquote 2392 01:22:50,310 --> 01:22:47,600 rednecks lived 2393 01:22:50,629 --> 01:22:50,320 you know i was you know in the cities 2394 01:22:52,709 --> 01:22:50,639 they 2395 01:22:54,709 --> 01:22:52,719 build it up that these rednecks are just 2396 01:22:56,550 --> 01:22:54,719 these racist people that are out to get 2397 01:22:57,110 --> 01:22:56,560 you and be careful you know make sure 2398 01:23:02,709 --> 01:22:57,120 you're 2399 01:23:04,870 --> 01:23:02,719 you know i i'm sorry i'm not going to 2400 01:23:07,350 --> 01:23:04,880 censor myself it's absolutely 2401 01:23:08,550 --> 01:23:07,360 you know because you know one of the 2402 01:23:10,390 --> 01:23:08,560 first things i saw 2403 01:23:11,590 --> 01:23:10,400 you know those neighbors after i moved 2404 01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:11,600 you know the country and they were 2405 01:23:14,229 --> 01:23:12,880 working on the road because it's a 2406 01:23:17,110 --> 01:23:14,239 gravel road and they were 2407 01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:17,120 you know trying to even it out i went up 2408 01:23:19,990 --> 01:23:17,920 to them 2409 01:23:21,270 --> 01:23:20,000 and the first guy got getting off the 2410 01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:21,280 tractor it's like 2411 01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:22,800 hey man calm down you're going down 2412 01:23:27,110 --> 01:23:24,480 there i was like 2413 01:23:28,470 --> 01:23:27,120 uh what in the world i couldn't 2414 01:23:29,910 --> 01:23:28,480 understand what he's saying 2415 01:23:31,990 --> 01:23:29,920 right he said come back down count up 2416 01:23:33,590 --> 01:23:32,000 that beer and then the other guy kind of 2417 01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:33,600 laughed i understood that did not say he 2418 01:23:36,870 --> 01:23:35,040 says do you want to come up there and 2419 01:23:39,910 --> 01:23:36,880 have a beer with us i was like oh 2420 01:23:41,910 --> 01:23:39,920 yeah yeah sure you know and so they were 2421 01:23:43,189 --> 01:23:41,920 interested they're like where am i from 2422 01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:43,199 you know they're like oh yeah we're 2423 01:23:47,030 --> 01:23:45,280 stationed in in germany and the other 2424 01:23:49,189 --> 01:23:47,040 guy was like you know this and that 2425 01:23:51,110 --> 01:23:49,199 you know so you know and everywhere i 2426 01:23:53,350 --> 01:23:51,120 went you know i'm in arkansas now 2427 01:23:55,189 --> 01:23:53,360 you know it's like you know wherever you 2428 01:23:58,709 --> 01:23:55,199 go you know this would be 2429 01:24:01,350 --> 01:23:58,719 the epiphany of this this redneck 2430 01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:01,360 hillbilly you know side and it's all 2431 01:24:05,430 --> 01:24:03,600 people just simply living their lives 2432 01:24:07,750 --> 01:24:05,440 going about their business tending to 2433 01:24:09,750 --> 01:24:07,760 their farm you know going to church 2434 01:24:10,870 --> 01:24:09,760 you know getting together having dinners 2435 01:24:12,790 --> 01:24:10,880 having lunches 2436 01:24:14,310 --> 01:24:12,800 you know and then you watch tv and it's 2437 01:24:16,629 --> 01:24:14,320 like they're labeled as these 2438 01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:16,639 you know these racist backwards people 2439 01:24:20,629 --> 01:24:18,480 you know and then i quickly realized 2440 01:24:22,390 --> 01:24:20,639 it's the cities that are backwards you 2441 01:24:24,229 --> 01:24:22,400 know and they're creating shadows to 2442 01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:24,239 punch that are not there 2443 01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:26,239 you know they can punch it whatever you 2444 01:24:30,229 --> 01:24:28,080 know you can create a silhouette and 2445 01:24:32,310 --> 01:24:30,239 call it racism and oppression and all 2446 01:24:34,709 --> 01:24:32,320 that you can punch at it all day long 2447 01:24:36,390 --> 01:24:34,719 you're not gonna do anything because you 2448 01:24:38,149 --> 01:24:36,400 know with all the things that went on in 2449 01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:38,159 the united states for all how many 2450 01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:39,520 months all these cities 2451 01:24:43,350 --> 01:24:42,400 burned down and destroyed where is this 2452 01:24:45,669 --> 01:24:43,360 oppression where 2453 01:24:47,510 --> 01:24:45,679 are the what is this opposite group that 2454 01:24:49,110 --> 01:24:47,520 then put them down 2455 01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:49,120 you know if they were so prevalent there 2456 01:24:53,430 --> 01:24:51,040 would be all these you know 2457 01:24:54,229 --> 01:24:53,440 uh people coming out of the woods so to 2458 01:24:56,149 --> 01:24:54,239 say to just 2459 01:24:57,669 --> 01:24:56,159 put a stop to it because they're so 2460 01:25:00,229 --> 01:24:57,679 racist and so ignorant 2461 01:25:01,750 --> 01:25:00,239 but nothing cities got destroyed 2462 01:25:04,709 --> 01:25:01,760 innocent people were hurt and 2463 01:25:06,470 --> 01:25:04,719 nothing you know and oh my favorite 2464 01:25:08,709 --> 01:25:06,480 close to where i live here is where it's 2465 01:25:09,110 --> 01:25:08,719 supposed to be the ku klux klan you know 2466 01:25:19,030 --> 01:25:09,120 the 2467 01:25:21,430 --> 01:25:19,040 because all three 2468 01:25:22,390 --> 01:25:21,440 of those kukla clan members came off 2469 01:25:24,870 --> 01:25:22,400 their property 2470 01:25:25,750 --> 01:25:24,880 and to the edge of it to face the group 2471 01:25:29,110 --> 01:25:25,760 that went to 2472 01:25:31,350 --> 01:25:29,120 to to you know um protest against this 2473 01:25:33,510 --> 01:25:31,360 they're like non-existent everywhere we 2474 01:25:34,229 --> 01:25:33,520 go i mean my wife has lived here all her 2475 01:25:37,270 --> 01:25:34,239 life 2476 01:25:37,830 --> 01:25:37,280 right in in arkansas it's like if she 2477 01:25:39,590 --> 01:25:37,840 was 2478 01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:39,600 and and her parents are just you know 2479 01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:41,199 the way you know all arca 2480 01:25:45,350 --> 01:25:43,360 or kansans are you know it's like 2481 01:25:48,310 --> 01:25:45,360 country folks you know living 2482 01:25:48,790 --> 01:25:48,320 in and you know you know living here in 2483 01:25:52,709 --> 01:25:48,800 in this 2484 01:25:53,669 --> 01:25:52,719 they would be labeled as whatever you 2485 01:25:55,030 --> 01:25:53,679 want to call them 2486 01:25:56,470 --> 01:25:55,040 you know rednecks all these sudden 2487 01:25:57,030 --> 01:25:56,480 things but they're not they're just 2488 01:25:59,830 --> 01:25:57,040 simply 2489 01:26:00,870 --> 01:25:59,840 normal people living their lives and let 2490 01:26:03,430 --> 01:26:00,880 me tell you 2491 01:26:04,229 --> 01:26:03,440 their parents were so racist that you 2492 01:26:06,950 --> 01:26:04,239 know they 2493 01:26:08,070 --> 01:26:06,960 basically uh you know made sure that she 2494 01:26:10,390 --> 01:26:08,080 was an open-minded 2495 01:26:11,990 --> 01:26:10,400 person accepted everybody and even go as 2496 01:26:13,430 --> 01:26:12,000 far as marry a foreigner 2497 01:26:15,669 --> 01:26:13,440 you know what i mean it's just 2498 01:26:17,350 --> 01:26:15,679 absolutely absurd you know it's like and 2499 01:26:18,550 --> 01:26:17,360 i just don't see it out there being 2500 01:26:20,070 --> 01:26:18,560 called out 2501 01:26:21,750 --> 01:26:20,080 you know i don't i don't see it being 2502 01:26:22,629 --> 01:26:21,760 called out at all is just being 2503 01:26:24,950 --> 01:26:22,639 propagated 2504 01:26:26,950 --> 01:26:24,960 over and over again because they find 2505 01:26:28,310 --> 01:26:26,960 certain instances find 2506 01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:28,320 ignorant people because you're always 2507 01:26:31,750 --> 01:26:29,840 going to find them everywhere and then 2508 01:26:32,790 --> 01:26:31,760 they say because of this one person 2509 01:26:35,189 --> 01:26:32,800 we're going to label 2510 01:26:36,070 --> 01:26:35,199 everybody this because of that person 2511 01:26:39,110 --> 01:26:36,080 we're going to label 2512 01:26:41,510 --> 01:26:39,120 everybody that you know and that's it's 2513 01:26:43,110 --> 01:26:41,520 it's not responsible as a human being 2514 01:26:45,669 --> 01:26:43,120 and you basically are doing a great 2515 01:26:48,470 --> 01:26:45,679 disservice because now you cannot come 2516 01:26:50,070 --> 01:26:48,480 you know to a common table to a common 2517 01:26:52,390 --> 01:26:50,080 place where you can discuss 2518 01:26:53,910 --> 01:26:52,400 okay there's a problem let's look at 2519 01:26:56,229 --> 01:26:53,920 this but instead 2520 01:26:58,310 --> 01:26:56,239 you have to get through the of 2521 01:27:00,470 --> 01:26:58,320 all the different levels of 2522 01:27:01,830 --> 01:27:00,480 to finally get to the to the bottom of 2523 01:27:03,350 --> 01:27:01,840 it you know 2524 01:27:05,669 --> 01:27:03,360 it's like just to give you a perfect 2525 01:27:07,669 --> 01:27:05,679 example you know when i first came 2526 01:27:09,350 --> 01:27:07,679 here my you know uh obviously i didn't 2527 01:27:09,669 --> 01:27:09,360 speak in english i think i could only 2528 01:27:12,229 --> 01:27:09,679 say 2529 01:27:14,070 --> 01:27:12,239 thank you very much you know and so i'm 2530 01:27:15,270 --> 01:27:14,080 talking about a culture shock i went to 2531 01:27:17,110 --> 01:27:15,280 roseville high 2532 01:27:18,550 --> 01:27:17,120 in saint louis you know you probably 2533 01:27:21,510 --> 01:27:18,560 know where it's at nathan 2534 01:27:22,350 --> 01:27:21,520 and um so there were about 2 000 kids 2535 01:27:26,390 --> 01:27:22,360 about 2536 01:27:28,950 --> 01:27:26,400 so were 2537 01:27:30,709 --> 01:27:28,960 you know bosnians and and other and it 2538 01:27:32,629 --> 01:27:30,719 was so funny is that 2539 01:27:34,070 --> 01:27:32,639 for at least about a week and a half i 2540 01:27:36,070 --> 01:27:34,080 was trying to figure out 2541 01:27:37,590 --> 01:27:36,080 who this whitey is because it's 2542 01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:37,600 constantly being talked about that 2543 01:27:41,669 --> 01:27:39,760 there's whitey keeping them down 2544 01:27:44,149 --> 01:27:41,679 and i kept looking like is he coming 2545 01:27:45,350 --> 01:27:44,159 after school you know it's whitey going 2546 01:27:46,390 --> 01:27:45,360 you know to these different players i 2547 01:27:50,310 --> 01:27:46,400 was trying to understand 2548 01:27:50,790 --> 01:27:50,320 the lead the what i said no way really 2549 01:27:53,910 --> 01:27:50,800 that 2550 01:27:56,310 --> 01:27:53,920 hilarious yeah no 2551 01:27:58,390 --> 01:27:56,320 only well because i because of the 2552 01:28:00,390 --> 01:27:58,400 difference in language only only then i 2553 01:28:02,790 --> 01:28:00,400 kind of quickly picked up oh 2554 01:28:03,990 --> 01:28:02,800 it's the general idea of of of white 2555 01:28:06,149 --> 01:28:04,000 people you know 2556 01:28:07,750 --> 01:28:06,159 and so they were i was you know getting 2557 01:28:10,390 --> 01:28:07,760 my education that there's 2558 01:28:11,750 --> 01:28:10,400 all these white people in america that 2559 01:28:13,430 --> 01:28:11,760 because i'm a foreigner they're not 2560 01:28:16,790 --> 01:28:13,440 going to treat me well 2561 01:28:17,430 --> 01:28:16,800 well i never ever ever saw anything like 2562 01:28:21,910 --> 01:28:17,440 that 2563 01:28:23,350 --> 01:28:21,920 people as always are ignorant or not 2564 01:28:26,229 --> 01:28:23,360 educated about something 2565 01:28:27,110 --> 01:28:26,239 but that is not even worth mentioning 2566 01:28:30,229 --> 01:28:27,120 compared to 2567 01:28:31,350 --> 01:28:30,239 what america is like you know and so to 2568 01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:31,360 where it allowed 2569 01:28:37,430 --> 01:28:34,880 what you know my dad i mean he when he 2570 01:28:38,950 --> 01:28:37,440 we barely been here for about what three 2571 01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:38,960 two three weeks or so 2572 01:28:43,270 --> 01:28:40,800 he didn't speak a little english he went 2573 01:28:45,030 --> 01:28:43,280 to his job with the translator 2574 01:28:46,870 --> 01:28:45,040 right and he brought his blueprints of 2575 01:28:47,750 --> 01:28:46,880 what he was building in germany and all 2576 01:28:49,990 --> 01:28:47,760 this other stuff 2577 01:28:51,830 --> 01:28:50,000 and basically proved or showed that i 2578 01:28:53,830 --> 01:28:51,840 can do this kind of stuff and i cannot 2579 01:28:56,629 --> 01:28:53,840 just draw it but i can build it for you 2580 01:28:58,470 --> 01:28:56,639 he got the job guess what 20 years later 2581 01:29:01,590 --> 01:28:58,480 he still has that job 2582 01:29:02,070 --> 01:29:01,600 you know as a non-english speaker you 2583 01:29:05,270 --> 01:29:02,080 know 2584 01:29:05,990 --> 01:29:05,280 and and not only that he after 10 years 2585 01:29:08,790 --> 01:29:06,000 he got 2586 01:29:10,550 --> 01:29:08,800 basically a 10 you know 10 year no 2587 01:29:12,229 --> 01:29:10,560 missing day a reward 2588 01:29:14,550 --> 01:29:12,239 and i think he might even go for his 2589 01:29:17,030 --> 01:29:14,560 20th 20th year 2590 01:29:17,830 --> 01:29:17,040 you know and it's like but what what did 2591 01:29:20,229 --> 01:29:17,840 he do different 2592 01:29:21,910 --> 01:29:20,239 nothing different than making sure my 2593 01:29:24,149 --> 01:29:21,920 brother and i stayed in school 2594 01:29:25,350 --> 01:29:24,159 making sure that you know they went to 2595 01:29:28,149 --> 01:29:25,360 work every day 2596 01:29:30,070 --> 01:29:28,159 worked hard came home and we had what we 2597 01:29:32,070 --> 01:29:30,080 had because of their hard work 2598 01:29:33,510 --> 01:29:32,080 and the language was never a problem 2599 01:29:34,790 --> 01:29:33,520 because a lot of people in america are 2600 01:29:36,229 --> 01:29:34,800 very accommodating 2601 01:29:37,669 --> 01:29:36,239 you know it's like whatever you don't 2602 01:29:39,430 --> 01:29:37,679 understand they might help you sure you 2603 01:29:41,590 --> 01:29:39,440 have some ignorant people but it's still 2604 01:29:44,629 --> 01:29:41,600 not saying because of this one person 2605 01:29:47,350 --> 01:29:44,639 entire united states is racist you know 2606 01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:47,360 it's like it just it blew my mind you 2607 01:29:51,189 --> 01:29:49,199 know that this development is happening 2608 01:29:54,310 --> 01:29:51,199 in the united states at this time 2609 01:29:56,149 --> 01:29:54,320 you know and and uh 2610 01:29:58,149 --> 01:29:56,159 all these different things about you 2611 01:29:59,270 --> 01:29:58,159 know all whatever is going on in this 2612 01:30:02,950 --> 01:29:59,280 country right now 2613 01:30:04,229 --> 01:30:02,960 you know so it's like it's not something 2614 01:30:06,390 --> 01:30:04,239 generally that i discuss 2615 01:30:08,390 --> 01:30:06,400 on the channel because i mean my passion 2616 01:30:09,990 --> 01:30:08,400 is always you know ufology and talking 2617 01:30:11,830 --> 01:30:10,000 about ufos but like i said 2618 01:30:13,270 --> 01:30:11,840 this is more like open topic or whatever 2619 01:30:13,750 --> 01:30:13,280 it is that we want to discuss so i 2620 01:30:15,910 --> 01:30:13,760 figured 2621 01:30:19,430 --> 01:30:15,920 since you kind of i don't know you 2622 01:30:21,830 --> 01:30:19,440 brought up some some points that kind of 2623 01:30:23,830 --> 01:30:21,840 made me feel inclined that i want to and 2624 01:30:27,430 --> 01:30:23,840 you know i should speak on that 2625 01:30:28,709 --> 01:30:27,440 just as a foreigner yeah it is kind of 2626 01:30:30,870 --> 01:30:28,719 sad what you're seeing there 2627 01:30:32,310 --> 01:30:30,880 i mean it's it's i don't know how it'll 2628 01:30:34,070 --> 01:30:32,320 pan out but it is sad i'm seeing a lot 2629 01:30:36,870 --> 01:30:34,080 of very intelligent people 2630 01:30:37,189 --> 01:30:36,880 fall prey to the to the to that sort of 2631 01:30:39,110 --> 01:30:37,199 uh 2632 01:30:40,790 --> 01:30:39,120 misinformation like that there's this 2633 01:30:42,550 --> 01:30:40,800 great divide and 2634 01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:42,560 and this this there's this horrible 2635 01:30:46,229 --> 01:30:44,320 horrible racism and 2636 01:30:47,510 --> 01:30:46,239 and maybe there is but but as you 2637 01:30:48,709 --> 01:30:47,520 experience firsthand you you don't 2638 01:30:49,270 --> 01:30:48,719 believe there is i don't believe there 2639 01:30:51,990 --> 01:30:49,280 is but i'm 2640 01:30:52,709 --> 01:30:52,000 also supposedly of the white privileged 2641 01:30:55,270 --> 01:30:52,719 class which 2642 01:30:56,709 --> 01:30:55,280 i don't know but i've never don't know 2643 01:30:57,590 --> 01:30:56,719 that but i still see a lot of very 2644 01:30:59,830 --> 01:30:57,600 intelligent people 2645 01:31:01,189 --> 01:30:59,840 fall and and and the girl that's 2646 01:31:02,629 --> 01:31:01,199 unfortunately don't speak to anymore she 2647 01:31:04,550 --> 01:31:02,639 was very very intelligent person you 2648 01:31:07,430 --> 01:31:04,560 know she and and and i see neighbors 2649 01:31:08,550 --> 01:31:07,440 doing it too and a lot of very educated 2650 01:31:10,310 --> 01:31:08,560 people maybe that's it they're 2651 01:31:11,990 --> 01:31:10,320 they're they're educated like 2652 01:31:12,629 --> 01:31:12,000 indoctrinated like by the system instead 2653 01:31:14,310 --> 01:31:12,639 of 2654 01:31:16,229 --> 01:31:14,320 self-educated maybe that's maybe that's 2655 01:31:19,030 --> 01:31:16,239 it i don't know didn't what is happening 2656 01:31:21,990 --> 01:31:19,040 but what was sad is that there was no 2657 01:31:25,430 --> 01:31:22,000 there was no chance for communication 2658 01:31:26,870 --> 01:31:25,440 you know and and the thing she she tried 2659 01:31:29,510 --> 01:31:26,880 to contact me later 2660 01:31:29,990 --> 01:31:29,520 like off sending me an email like kind 2661 01:31:32,070 --> 01:31:30,000 of like 2662 01:31:33,510 --> 01:31:32,080 hey do you you know are you not speaking 2663 01:31:35,669 --> 01:31:33,520 to me anymore whatever 2664 01:31:37,430 --> 01:31:35,679 i just you never responded because i was 2665 01:31:39,750 --> 01:31:37,440 like i cannot 2666 01:31:40,629 --> 01:31:39,760 you know i can't go down this road that 2667 01:31:43,270 --> 01:31:40,639 you're going 2668 01:31:44,550 --> 01:31:43,280 down you know you can't tell me after my 2669 01:31:47,830 --> 01:31:44,560 20 years of 2670 01:31:50,149 --> 01:31:47,840 being you know to knew not every part of 2671 01:31:52,870 --> 01:31:50,159 the united states but to large part 2672 01:31:53,990 --> 01:31:52,880 you know to where wherever i went you 2673 01:31:55,990 --> 01:31:54,000 know all i ever saw 2674 01:31:58,070 --> 01:31:56,000 is just people living their lives and 2675 01:31:58,950 --> 01:31:58,080 and trying to improve it whichever way 2676 01:32:02,310 --> 01:31:58,960 they can 2677 01:32:03,830 --> 01:32:02,320 you know especially especially around 2678 01:32:05,750 --> 01:32:03,840 arkansas you know it's like everyone 2679 01:32:06,470 --> 01:32:05,760 always like oh orchestras like this i've 2680 01:32:08,070 --> 01:32:06,480 been to 2681 01:32:09,830 --> 01:32:08,080 to the deepest buildings here in 2682 01:32:11,750 --> 01:32:09,840 arkansas you know 2683 01:32:13,430 --> 01:32:11,760 and all i ever find is just people just 2684 01:32:14,790 --> 01:32:13,440 living their lives if they stop they 2685 01:32:15,750 --> 01:32:14,800 actually it's it's very different they 2686 01:32:17,590 --> 01:32:15,760 talk here 2687 01:32:19,189 --> 01:32:17,600 you know everyone you know in san luis 2688 01:32:19,750 --> 01:32:19,199 you say hey how are you how you doing 2689 01:32:21,910 --> 01:32:19,760 you know 2690 01:32:23,669 --> 01:32:21,920 it's still is not as bad as chicago is 2691 01:32:25,110 --> 01:32:23,679 and what i've heard about new york 2692 01:32:26,790 --> 01:32:25,120 you know because every time you you kind 2693 01:32:28,070 --> 01:32:26,800 of overly friendly on the east or west 2694 01:32:28,709 --> 01:32:28,080 coast they're like what the hell do you 2695 01:32:31,030 --> 01:32:28,719 want 2696 01:32:33,590 --> 01:32:31,040 you know but at least in the midwest you 2697 01:32:36,629 --> 01:32:33,600 know even compared to san luis how 2698 01:32:38,709 --> 01:32:36,639 milk toast kind of san luis is um 2699 01:32:40,629 --> 01:32:38,719 they're you know everything is yes ma'am 2700 01:32:42,310 --> 01:32:40,639 no ma'am you know opening doors for each 2701 01:32:43,910 --> 01:32:42,320 other you know it's like i remember 2702 01:32:45,830 --> 01:32:43,920 the first time i was trying to walk into 2703 01:32:47,430 --> 01:32:45,840 a mcdonald's and this cowboy walked out 2704 01:32:49,110 --> 01:32:47,440 and he's like opened the door 2705 01:32:50,629 --> 01:32:49,120 and i said you know oh thank you very 2706 01:32:52,470 --> 01:32:50,639 much he just kind of tipped his head 2707 01:32:53,990 --> 01:32:52,480 he's like you have a good day sir and he 2708 01:32:55,990 --> 01:32:54,000 you know walked out you know and i 2709 01:32:57,990 --> 01:32:56,000 thought this was an oddity but instead 2710 01:33:00,310 --> 01:32:58,000 it's literally everyone that i've 2711 01:33:02,149 --> 01:33:00,320 experienced you know here only when i 2712 01:33:03,430 --> 01:33:02,159 get to the larger cities does it get 2713 01:33:05,830 --> 01:33:03,440 back to the whole 2714 01:33:07,430 --> 01:33:05,840 distance and who are you and what the 2715 01:33:07,990 --> 01:33:07,440 hell do you want where everyone is 2716 01:33:10,790 --> 01:33:08,000 always just 2717 01:33:11,669 --> 01:33:10,800 looked at everyone else as what do they 2718 01:33:13,590 --> 01:33:11,679 want from me 2719 01:33:14,709 --> 01:33:13,600 you know it's like what is this person 2720 01:33:16,390 --> 01:33:14,719 trying to get 2721 01:33:17,990 --> 01:33:16,400 why they're smiling that's kind of 2722 01:33:21,110 --> 01:33:18,000 strange that's weird 2723 01:33:23,430 --> 01:33:21,120 you know and so um you know i 2724 01:33:24,790 --> 01:33:23,440 it took me a little while that for quite 2725 01:33:26,870 --> 01:33:24,800 a while we've been kind of 2726 01:33:27,910 --> 01:33:26,880 programmed talking about this tv as i 2727 01:33:30,790 --> 01:33:27,920 mentioned earlier 2728 01:33:31,750 --> 01:33:30,800 to only view you know you have 2729 01:33:33,669 --> 01:33:31,760 deliverance 2730 01:33:36,070 --> 01:33:33,679 you know you have different movies where 2731 01:33:37,750 --> 01:33:36,080 you have your truck drivers always these 2732 01:33:39,110 --> 01:33:37,760 you know dumb rednecks driving the 2733 01:33:41,590 --> 01:33:39,120 trucks you know and 2734 01:33:42,470 --> 01:33:41,600 always just the worst of the worst you 2735 01:33:46,229 --> 01:33:42,480 know and there's 2736 01:33:48,629 --> 01:33:46,239 there's never ever a a a representation 2737 01:33:49,510 --> 01:33:48,639 of an educated truck driver you know 2738 01:33:52,870 --> 01:33:49,520 never ever 2739 01:33:55,110 --> 01:33:52,880 you know um uh be basically a 2740 01:33:56,229 --> 01:33:55,120 a you know redneck that just build a 2741 01:33:58,709 --> 01:33:56,239 house on his own 2742 01:34:00,709 --> 01:33:58,719 with his own you know bare hands you 2743 01:34:01,110 --> 01:34:00,719 know from the land that he's living on 2744 01:34:05,990 --> 01:34:01,120 all 2745 01:34:08,709 --> 01:34:06,000 that they can only ever be racist they 2746 01:34:10,950 --> 01:34:08,719 can only ever be these backwards people 2747 01:34:12,709 --> 01:34:10,960 you know and so when you have that 2748 01:34:14,870 --> 01:34:12,719 constant programming and especially when 2749 01:34:17,110 --> 01:34:14,880 it's controlled by the cities 2750 01:34:19,189 --> 01:34:17,120 you know by by the big media companies 2751 01:34:22,070 --> 01:34:19,199 however they want to push the agenda 2752 01:34:23,590 --> 01:34:22,080 you know it's then easy to just you know 2753 01:34:25,189 --> 01:34:23,600 look at someone you've never met 2754 01:34:26,709 --> 01:34:25,199 and all you hear is like oh you're from 2755 01:34:28,950 --> 01:34:26,719 the south the racist 2756 01:34:29,990 --> 01:34:28,960 you know it's like oh you're from the 2757 01:34:33,030 --> 01:34:30,000 south you things do 2758 01:34:35,110 --> 01:34:33,040 you do things backwards you know and um 2759 01:34:37,270 --> 01:34:35,120 you know it's it's been happening for 2760 01:34:39,110 --> 01:34:37,280 years you know it's just been this slow 2761 01:34:40,709 --> 01:34:39,120 programming that if you don't stop 2762 01:34:43,189 --> 01:34:40,719 yourself and realize 2763 01:34:45,750 --> 01:34:43,199 oh i am being programmed you know let me 2764 01:34:47,590 --> 01:34:45,760 stop and analyze things on my own and 2765 01:34:48,950 --> 01:34:47,600 have my own experience first before i 2766 01:34:53,270 --> 01:34:48,960 can speak on this 2767 01:34:54,950 --> 01:34:53,280 you know so anyway boy i guess 2768 01:34:58,709 --> 01:34:54,960 i guess today is just going to be known 2769 01:35:00,070 --> 01:34:58,719 as the open line rent case 2770 01:35:01,590 --> 01:35:00,080 you know that is like your topic of not 2771 01:35:02,790 --> 01:35:01,600 being mislead but actually i did if you 2772 01:35:04,310 --> 01:35:02,800 don't mind if i change the subject i did 2773 01:35:05,430 --> 01:35:04,320 want to ask you a question about a ufo 2774 01:35:08,310 --> 01:35:05,440 experience that 2775 01:35:09,910 --> 01:35:08,320 you had a while ago yeah can you hold on 2776 01:35:12,070 --> 01:35:09,920 uh hold that thought hold that thought i 2777 01:35:13,830 --> 01:35:12,080 want to get back to this fabric has 2778 01:35:15,669 --> 01:35:13,840 asked something a while back 2779 01:35:18,470 --> 01:35:15,679 he was saying something if there was 2780 01:35:21,590 --> 01:35:18,480 some meditation i could recommend 2781 01:35:24,070 --> 01:35:21,600 for uh for those that it's what did he 2782 01:35:28,229 --> 01:35:27,109 excuse me um there was a question he was 2783 01:35:30,310 --> 01:35:28,239 asking 2784 01:35:31,430 --> 01:35:30,320 oh he says what type of meditation can 2785 01:35:33,910 --> 01:35:31,440 you 2786 01:35:34,629 --> 01:35:33,920 recommend for people not having success 2787 01:35:39,830 --> 01:35:34,639 with it 2788 01:35:42,950 --> 01:35:39,840 well there really um there really is no 2789 01:35:45,510 --> 01:35:42,960 specific thing that i could you know 2790 01:35:46,950 --> 01:35:45,520 i mean might help people if i say you 2791 01:35:50,870 --> 01:35:46,960 know 2792 01:35:53,270 --> 01:35:50,880 get in this state 2793 01:35:55,270 --> 01:35:53,280 you know make sure you twirl two times 2794 01:35:57,990 --> 01:35:55,280 before you sit down only then 2795 01:35:59,189 --> 01:35:58,000 will the energy move blah blah blah blah 2796 01:36:03,430 --> 01:35:59,199 there really is no 2797 01:36:06,229 --> 01:36:03,440 no no no like secret 2798 01:36:07,030 --> 01:36:06,239 secret about it it simply is your 2799 01:36:10,229 --> 01:36:07,040 willingness 2800 01:36:12,149 --> 01:36:10,239 to sit at a comfortable spot preferably 2801 01:36:13,910 --> 01:36:12,159 not the bed to where you can easily fall 2802 01:36:15,590 --> 01:36:13,920 asleep because your mind is set to oh 2803 01:36:17,430 --> 01:36:15,600 i'm in bed let's go to sleep 2804 01:36:19,590 --> 01:36:17,440 you know like a comfortable chair i used 2805 01:36:21,189 --> 01:36:19,600 to have this larger chair where i could 2806 01:36:22,790 --> 01:36:21,199 just actually sit down 2807 01:36:24,950 --> 01:36:22,800 and kind of lean back on it and then 2808 01:36:28,070 --> 01:36:24,960 cross my legs and then i would just 2809 01:36:29,590 --> 01:36:28,080 basically just sit there in in this mode 2810 01:36:30,790 --> 01:36:29,600 to where i would just stare at the 2811 01:36:32,390 --> 01:36:30,800 darkness 2812 01:36:34,229 --> 01:36:32,400 and just keep going and keep going 2813 01:36:36,470 --> 01:36:34,239 sometimes half an hour will go by 2814 01:36:39,430 --> 01:36:36,480 nothing happens you know but then slowly 2815 01:36:42,950 --> 01:36:39,440 but surely that that void that you see 2816 01:36:46,149 --> 01:36:42,960 uh starts to expand like it becomes a 2817 01:36:48,470 --> 01:36:46,159 you know almost like this infinite space 2818 01:36:49,270 --> 01:36:48,480 and then you keep going keep going to to 2819 01:36:52,229 --> 01:36:49,280 where um 2820 01:36:53,990 --> 01:36:52,239 so many times i caught my my body 2821 01:36:55,030 --> 01:36:54,000 falling asleep while i was still 2822 01:36:57,510 --> 01:36:55,040 conscious 2823 01:36:59,590 --> 01:36:57,520 you know and so when you just keep 2824 01:37:01,189 --> 01:36:59,600 practicing it depends on how willing you 2825 01:37:02,070 --> 01:37:01,199 are to achieve what it is that you want 2826 01:37:04,470 --> 01:37:02,080 to achieve 2827 01:37:06,390 --> 01:37:04,480 you know you will then slowly start 2828 01:37:08,550 --> 01:37:06,400 receiving certain imagery 2829 01:37:09,430 --> 01:37:08,560 that then would be your your 2830 01:37:12,390 --> 01:37:09,440 communication 2831 01:37:13,750 --> 01:37:12,400 to kind of understand like okay i'm you 2832 01:37:14,550 --> 01:37:13,760 know something's happening what's 2833 01:37:16,629 --> 01:37:14,560 happening 2834 01:37:18,470 --> 01:37:16,639 you know but it's still not going to be 2835 01:37:21,510 --> 01:37:18,480 like a analytical thing 2836 01:37:23,189 --> 01:37:21,520 the meditation will simply take you to 2837 01:37:25,430 --> 01:37:23,199 whatever it is that you need to start 2838 01:37:26,229 --> 01:37:25,440 out with so fabrica i'm sorry to say 2839 01:37:29,750 --> 01:37:26,239 that there isn't 2840 01:37:32,149 --> 01:37:29,760 a necessarily an easy way other than to 2841 01:37:33,990 --> 01:37:32,159 just do whatever it is that you do but 2842 01:37:35,990 --> 01:37:34,000 sometimes meditation doesn't always just 2843 01:37:37,109 --> 01:37:36,000 have to be sitting down that's when you 2844 01:37:40,070 --> 01:37:37,119 really want to 2845 01:37:41,990 --> 01:37:40,080 absorb something or experience something 2846 01:37:42,550 --> 01:37:42,000 that's when i recommend you sitting down 2847 01:37:44,229 --> 01:37:42,560 but 2848 01:37:46,070 --> 01:37:44,239 whether you're painting you know a lot 2849 01:37:46,629 --> 01:37:46,080 of times when i was working on my house 2850 01:37:49,270 --> 01:37:46,639 and doing 2851 01:37:50,950 --> 01:37:49,280 mudding and and then later on you know 2852 01:37:53,590 --> 01:37:50,960 painting things over 2853 01:37:53,990 --> 01:37:53,600 um that was a form of meditation where i 2854 01:37:57,590 --> 01:37:54,000 would 2855 01:38:00,390 --> 01:37:57,600 um 2856 01:38:01,270 --> 01:38:00,400 of of that that would come from within 2857 01:38:04,149 --> 01:38:01,280 you know and 2858 01:38:04,709 --> 01:38:04,159 as i'm painting i would then the feeling 2859 01:38:07,030 --> 01:38:04,719 would come 2860 01:38:08,950 --> 01:38:07,040 in these weird ways to where i had i 2861 01:38:10,629 --> 01:38:08,960 would have to verbalize it in my head 2862 01:38:12,870 --> 01:38:10,639 like i'm talking to myself 2863 01:38:14,149 --> 01:38:12,880 and the next thing i know by translating 2864 01:38:16,550 --> 01:38:14,159 these feelings would 2865 01:38:18,709 --> 01:38:16,560 you know be translated into you know 2866 01:38:21,109 --> 01:38:18,719 concepts and messages and things that i 2867 01:38:23,109 --> 01:38:21,119 needed to understand about my life about 2868 01:38:24,390 --> 01:38:23,119 something that was difficult to buy my 2869 01:38:25,830 --> 01:38:24,400 job or whatever 2870 01:38:27,430 --> 01:38:25,840 and so even though i wasn't sitting 2871 01:38:28,870 --> 01:38:27,440 there closing my eyes and doing the 2872 01:38:31,510 --> 01:38:28,880 traditional meditation 2873 01:38:32,870 --> 01:38:31,520 i still got you know from it by simply 2874 01:38:35,510 --> 01:38:32,880 doing what you know 2875 01:38:36,390 --> 01:38:35,520 what i you know needed to do you know 2876 01:38:38,310 --> 01:38:36,400 what it would be 2877 01:38:40,229 --> 01:38:38,320 because it was when you're doing drywall 2878 01:38:42,709 --> 01:38:40,239 or doing paint in your house or 2879 01:38:43,270 --> 01:38:42,719 putting in new tiles it's all repetitive 2880 01:38:45,590 --> 01:38:43,280 so 2881 01:38:47,590 --> 01:38:45,600 you can you know kind of do what you 2882 01:38:48,790 --> 01:38:47,600 need to do physically while you still 2883 01:38:51,990 --> 01:38:48,800 allow your mind 2884 01:38:54,870 --> 01:38:52,000 to just kind of shut down go within 2885 01:38:58,390 --> 01:38:54,880 and then just what what let come what 2886 01:39:01,990 --> 01:38:58,400 may come 2887 01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:02,000 um maggie smith uh 2888 01:39:06,070 --> 01:39:04,480 was asking who do you want to interview 2889 01:39:09,590 --> 01:39:06,080 that you haven't yet 2890 01:39:10,709 --> 01:39:09,600 um honestly 2891 01:39:13,109 --> 01:39:10,719 when it comes to these different 2892 01:39:15,830 --> 01:39:13,119 interviews i just try to get as much of 2893 01:39:19,109 --> 01:39:15,840 a variety of people as i possibly can 2894 01:39:22,229 --> 01:39:19,119 so that they are seen by others 2895 01:39:23,270 --> 01:39:22,239 and then hopefully by you watching it 2896 01:39:26,229 --> 01:39:23,280 maybe to 2897 01:39:26,950 --> 01:39:26,239 come across a new piece of information 2898 01:39:29,510 --> 01:39:26,960 that you might 2899 01:39:30,070 --> 01:39:29,520 you know you might find useful but there 2900 01:39:32,629 --> 01:39:30,080 isn't 2901 01:39:34,470 --> 01:39:32,639 one particular person that i was like 2902 01:39:36,790 --> 01:39:34,480 god i wish i could talk to them 2903 01:39:37,750 --> 01:39:36,800 whoever i can get whoever it is that it 2904 01:39:40,790 --> 01:39:37,760 can you know 2905 01:39:42,790 --> 01:39:40,800 benefit the overall you know channel by 2906 01:39:43,510 --> 01:39:42,800 having a larger library of people with 2907 01:39:45,669 --> 01:39:43,520 different 2908 01:39:47,430 --> 01:39:45,679 understandings that's what you know 2909 01:39:50,149 --> 01:39:47,440 that's what i'm basically 2910 01:39:51,189 --> 01:39:50,159 you know striving for there's not one 2911 01:39:52,870 --> 01:39:51,199 one particular 2912 01:39:55,270 --> 01:39:52,880 person that i would just be like i 2913 01:39:59,189 --> 01:39:55,280 absolutely gotta have them 2914 01:40:05,910 --> 01:40:02,310 excuse me okay let me just see here real 2915 01:40:08,149 --> 01:40:05,920 quick nathan i want to see if there was 2916 01:40:12,709 --> 01:40:08,159 if there was any other questions 2917 01:40:23,910 --> 01:40:14,790 or i mean everyone chatting so i want to 2918 01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:32,950 uh roland welcome 2919 01:40:36,470 --> 01:40:35,430 and yeah you whoever is still out there 2920 01:40:39,189 --> 01:40:36,480 if you would like to 2921 01:40:39,830 --> 01:40:39,199 join me uh nathan just happened to to be 2922 01:40:42,390 --> 01:40:39,840 on so 2923 01:40:43,350 --> 01:40:42,400 we're just gonna keep chatting and 2924 01:40:46,149 --> 01:40:43,360 exchanging 2925 01:40:48,070 --> 01:40:46,159 ideas and and doing what we do unless 2926 01:40:49,350 --> 01:40:48,080 someone else joins i saw someone else 2927 01:40:51,030 --> 01:40:49,360 had joined earlier but 2928 01:40:53,030 --> 01:40:51,040 i don't know if they meant to if they 2929 01:40:54,709 --> 01:40:53,040 were just wanting to listen i 2930 01:40:56,470 --> 01:40:54,719 couldn't tell if they had raised their 2931 01:40:59,750 --> 01:40:56,480 hand because i was so into 2932 01:41:13,109 --> 01:40:59,760 into getting off my chest of what i was 2933 01:41:16,390 --> 01:41:15,350 hazel it's more of a statement i think 2934 01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:16,400 but hazel said 2935 01:41:19,990 --> 01:41:18,400 i think if we are told something often 2936 01:41:24,229 --> 01:41:20,000 enough we end up 2937 01:41:26,790 --> 01:41:24,239 believing it brain brainwashed true 2938 01:41:27,590 --> 01:41:26,800 i mean if especially if you don't um if 2939 01:41:31,590 --> 01:41:27,600 you're not 2940 01:41:33,590 --> 01:41:31,600 checker and you just 2941 01:41:44,830 --> 01:41:33,600 only take in one narrative then you're 2942 01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:51,109 picture 2943 01:41:54,790 --> 01:41:54,070 uh fabrice says were they reported orbs 2944 01:41:57,750 --> 01:41:54,800 during the 2945 01:41:58,229 --> 01:41:57,760 hard times of bosnia you know i don't i 2946 01:42:01,910 --> 01:41:58,239 can't 2947 01:42:04,229 --> 01:42:01,920 speak on that personally i mean i 2948 01:42:07,109 --> 01:42:04,239 you know it's not something that's that 2949 01:42:10,070 --> 01:42:07,119 was on my mind especially at that age 2950 01:42:10,550 --> 01:42:10,080 it was just mainly um kind of like you 2951 01:42:16,629 --> 01:42:10,560 know 2952 01:42:19,030 --> 01:42:16,639 opposite way 2953 01:42:19,830 --> 01:42:19,040 you know and um it was that kind of 2954 01:42:21,590 --> 01:42:19,840 thing i i 2955 01:42:23,830 --> 01:42:21,600 didn't have the mindset that i have now 2956 01:42:24,790 --> 01:42:23,840 to be more observant of what's going on 2957 01:42:26,790 --> 01:42:24,800 it was just 2958 01:42:28,310 --> 01:42:26,800 mainly of follow the direction of my 2959 01:42:30,070 --> 01:42:28,320 parents run in the direction i'm 2960 01:42:32,149 --> 01:42:30,080 supposed to run and just 2961 01:42:33,350 --> 01:42:32,159 you know keeping it at that so it was 2962 01:42:39,910 --> 01:42:33,360 just this basic 2963 01:42:43,350 --> 01:42:41,669 okay nathan i'm sorry thank you very 2964 01:42:44,310 --> 01:42:43,360 much for holding that i was just looking 2965 01:42:46,629 --> 01:42:44,320 through and there were no 2966 01:42:50,229 --> 01:42:46,639 no more other questions so um uh 2967 01:42:53,270 --> 01:42:50,239 continue with what you were going to ask 2968 01:42:54,830 --> 01:42:53,280 okay yeah so i was um like we hadn't 2969 01:42:56,950 --> 01:42:54,840 talked in a couple years or 2970 01:42:58,149 --> 01:42:56,960 probably at least two years if not more 2971 01:43:01,910 --> 01:42:58,159 i'm not sure 2972 01:43:03,510 --> 01:43:01,920 um and i know a while ago 2973 01:43:05,590 --> 01:43:03,520 you you had mentioned and let me preface 2974 01:43:09,109 --> 01:43:05,600 this question with with a brief anecdote 2975 01:43:10,790 --> 01:43:09,119 so even more years ago than that i can't 2976 01:43:13,750 --> 01:43:10,800 i can't tell exactly i was i was you 2977 01:43:15,510 --> 01:43:13,760 know researching ufology intensely 2978 01:43:17,830 --> 01:43:15,520 and uh just by doing that it kind of 2979 01:43:19,830 --> 01:43:17,840 opens you up to have more experiences 2980 01:43:20,950 --> 01:43:19,840 um it kind of just sort of says to the 2981 01:43:22,470 --> 01:43:20,960 universe or whoever's 2982 01:43:23,669 --> 01:43:22,480 out there that you're you're writing it 2983 01:43:24,310 --> 01:43:23,679 for those experiences and i started 2984 01:43:26,709 --> 01:43:24,320 having 2985 01:43:28,229 --> 01:43:26,719 mainly just really intense vivid you 2986 01:43:31,030 --> 01:43:28,239 know lucid dreams and stuff 2987 01:43:32,229 --> 01:43:31,040 uh and you know someone got a guy and 2988 01:43:32,950 --> 01:43:32,239 then actually a lot of auto body 2989 01:43:36,070 --> 01:43:32,960 experiences 2990 01:43:37,669 --> 01:43:36,080 and then uh which actually got 2991 01:43:39,270 --> 01:43:37,679 crazy scary sometimes so i kind of 2992 01:43:39,910 --> 01:43:39,280 thought like okay it's i'm not ready for 2993 01:43:41,830 --> 01:43:39,920 this i need to 2994 01:43:43,030 --> 01:43:41,840 slow this down a little bit i'm not 2995 01:43:45,830 --> 01:43:43,040 ready to be 2996 01:43:47,109 --> 01:43:45,840 made contact with um and then actually 2997 01:43:48,310 --> 01:43:47,119 just recently here we found out there 2998 01:43:49,270 --> 01:43:48,320 was a poltergeist in our house and the 2999 01:43:50,790 --> 01:43:49,280 only reason i knew that is because my 3000 01:43:51,750 --> 01:43:50,800 wife is very sensitive we've since 3001 01:43:53,030 --> 01:43:51,760 cleaned the house we've raised our 3002 01:43:53,510 --> 01:43:53,040 energies we're no longer affected by 3003 01:43:55,510 --> 01:43:53,520 that 3004 01:43:56,790 --> 01:43:55,520 and now i'm back in to the ufology and 3005 01:43:57,910 --> 01:43:56,800 i'm thinking maybe you know now i am 3006 01:43:59,669 --> 01:43:57,920 ready i do want to 3007 01:44:01,990 --> 01:43:59,679 you know i want those experiences to 3008 01:44:04,950 --> 01:44:02,000 resume and make more contact uh but 3009 01:44:06,310 --> 01:44:04,960 which reminded me here about uh an 3010 01:44:07,910 --> 01:44:06,320 experience that you share with me when 3011 01:44:09,830 --> 01:44:07,920 you were driving down your driveway 3012 01:44:11,510 --> 01:44:09,840 back to your before you even had the low 3013 01:44:13,669 --> 01:44:11,520 water bridge and stuff and 3014 01:44:14,550 --> 01:44:13,679 and you were in in robertsville and you 3015 01:44:17,510 --> 01:44:14,560 were um 3016 01:44:18,709 --> 01:44:17,520 and you saw the orb or or not orbs of 3017 01:44:22,070 --> 01:44:18,719 red uh a disc 3018 01:44:23,910 --> 01:44:22,080 shaped object yeah and then no red orbs 3019 01:44:25,590 --> 01:44:23,920 red orbs okay but but still the amount 3020 01:44:27,109 --> 01:44:25,600 of fear like struck you and then 3021 01:44:28,790 --> 01:44:27,119 i think you kind of maybe went through 3022 01:44:29,990 --> 01:44:28,800 the same experience that you want to 3023 01:44:30,629 --> 01:44:30,000 share that and then share that 3024 01:44:31,990 --> 01:44:30,639 experience 3025 01:44:33,910 --> 01:44:32,000 briefly i know you've probably told it a 3026 01:44:34,550 --> 01:44:33,920 million times uh to the to the listeners 3027 01:44:36,310 --> 01:44:34,560 but 3028 01:44:37,669 --> 01:44:36,320 uh and then and then i wanted to ask you 3029 01:44:39,350 --> 01:44:37,679 further after that 3030 01:44:41,189 --> 01:44:39,360 has your experiences resumed have you 3031 01:44:43,750 --> 01:44:41,199 experienced new ones more recently now 3032 01:44:47,109 --> 01:44:43,760 do you feel more open to more since then 3033 01:44:49,830 --> 01:44:47,119 well but that i believe uh 3034 01:44:51,430 --> 01:44:49,840 not believe it's like that was more of a 3035 01:44:53,990 --> 01:44:51,440 actually conclusion 3036 01:44:54,629 --> 01:44:54,000 to what was what was happening to me 3037 01:44:57,109 --> 01:44:54,639 because 3038 01:44:58,070 --> 01:44:57,119 um not in the sense of overall it's done 3039 01:45:00,470 --> 01:44:58,080 and over with 3040 01:45:03,270 --> 01:45:00,480 because my life then took this totally 3041 01:45:04,229 --> 01:45:03,280 new turn to where i moved to arkansas i 3042 01:45:07,510 --> 01:45:04,239 got married 3043 01:45:09,510 --> 01:45:07,520 you know um uh had children you know and 3044 01:45:11,830 --> 01:45:09,520 then all of a sudden because became the 3045 01:45:15,109 --> 01:45:11,840 father you know and and father figure 3046 01:45:16,790 --> 01:45:15,119 you know um and and needing to then 3047 01:45:18,470 --> 01:45:16,800 step up to that you know going to work 3048 01:45:20,950 --> 01:45:18,480 doing what i got to do so 3049 01:45:21,590 --> 01:45:20,960 all that i could have experienced i did 3050 01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:21,600 on 3051 01:45:26,310 --> 01:45:24,400 you know by myself to to learn to kind 3052 01:45:27,830 --> 01:45:26,320 of go through whatever craziness i 3053 01:45:29,990 --> 01:45:27,840 need to go through because it's very 3054 01:45:31,750 --> 01:45:30,000 difficult to do that when you have 3055 01:45:33,910 --> 01:45:31,760 a family you know it's like i can't 3056 01:45:34,950 --> 01:45:33,920 afford to just kind of be catatonic to 3057 01:45:38,709 --> 01:45:34,960 like 3058 01:45:40,310 --> 01:45:38,719 work 3059 01:45:42,709 --> 01:45:40,320 you know children constantly bothering 3060 01:45:44,070 --> 01:45:42,719 me every day you know my wife needs help 3061 01:45:45,189 --> 01:45:44,080 you know and all this other stuff that's 3062 01:45:47,750 --> 01:45:45,199 happening so 3063 01:45:48,550 --> 01:45:47,760 it didn't continue in the same sense but 3064 01:45:49,910 --> 01:45:48,560 at least 3065 01:45:51,669 --> 01:45:49,920 you know everything that i could 3066 01:45:53,189 --> 01:45:51,679 possibly um 3067 01:45:55,750 --> 01:45:53,199 experience to give me a good 3068 01:45:58,310 --> 01:45:55,760 understanding to kind of chew on it for 3069 01:46:01,350 --> 01:45:58,320 all these times that i've been now more 3070 01:46:04,390 --> 01:46:01,360 busy and surrounded by more people 3071 01:46:06,790 --> 01:46:04,400 the the the problem was 3072 01:46:08,310 --> 01:46:06,800 uh generally the although there was a 3073 01:46:11,510 --> 01:46:08,320 visual physical 3074 01:46:13,510 --> 01:46:11,520 um visualization and i could see it that 3075 01:46:17,189 --> 01:46:13,520 it was in this reality 3076 01:46:20,229 --> 01:46:17,199 the energy of it is was so vast 3077 01:46:23,430 --> 01:46:20,239 that it basically um it 3078 01:46:26,950 --> 01:46:23,440 if you are not on a certain level 3079 01:46:30,149 --> 01:46:26,960 um or progressed enough to where it 3080 01:46:31,590 --> 01:46:30,159 creates um that energy is perceived by 3081 01:46:34,390 --> 01:46:31,600 your body as it is 3082 01:46:36,310 --> 01:46:34,400 as something dangerous and it creates 3083 01:46:38,310 --> 01:46:36,320 this paranoia because there's this 3084 01:46:39,590 --> 01:46:38,320 overwhelming paranoia to where you're 3085 01:46:41,590 --> 01:46:39,600 trying to figure out 3086 01:46:42,950 --> 01:46:41,600 what in the world is happening to me and 3087 01:46:45,270 --> 01:46:42,960 then then start 3088 01:46:46,629 --> 01:46:45,280 visually start changing the your 3089 01:46:48,709 --> 01:46:46,639 environment to where 3090 01:46:50,310 --> 01:46:48,719 you know of the sudden this rock and 3091 01:46:52,629 --> 01:46:50,320 everything else around you 3092 01:46:55,430 --> 01:46:52,639 it's uh it wasn't an illusion you know 3093 01:46:58,390 --> 01:46:55,440 it was an actual like it started to wave 3094 01:47:00,229 --> 01:46:58,400 you know and um and so all these 3095 01:47:02,550 --> 01:47:00,239 different things that go through you 3096 01:47:03,510 --> 01:47:02,560 and then your body gets into this mode 3097 01:47:06,229 --> 01:47:03,520 to where 3098 01:47:06,709 --> 01:47:06,239 it's this fight-or-flight uh state of 3099 01:47:09,750 --> 01:47:06,719 mind 3100 01:47:11,990 --> 01:47:09,760 to where if that energy were to keep 3101 01:47:13,189 --> 01:47:12,000 progressing and wanting to you know 3102 01:47:15,270 --> 01:47:13,199 finally get 3103 01:47:17,669 --> 01:47:15,280 physically close enough to where i can 3104 01:47:19,990 --> 01:47:17,679 be in quote unquote contact to be like 3105 01:47:23,350 --> 01:47:20,000 hey how you doing shake my hand 3106 01:47:25,669 --> 01:47:23,360 you know um the mind 3107 01:47:27,590 --> 01:47:25,679 couldn't take it that was and the body 3108 01:47:28,870 --> 01:47:27,600 in general couldn't take it to where it 3109 01:47:31,590 --> 01:47:28,880 was too much 3110 01:47:33,109 --> 01:47:31,600 you know and more physical damage would 3111 01:47:33,910 --> 01:47:33,119 have been left behind and i would have 3112 01:47:36,709 --> 01:47:33,920 been 3113 01:47:38,870 --> 01:47:36,719 you know um i guess would have literally 3114 01:47:41,030 --> 01:47:38,880 kind of gone into the psychotic shock 3115 01:47:42,629 --> 01:47:41,040 to where i wouldn't have been myself 3116 01:47:45,750 --> 01:47:42,639 anymore the way i am now 3117 01:47:47,830 --> 01:47:45,760 i would have been more i guess what even 3118 01:47:49,510 --> 01:47:47,840 would have gone as far as being more 3119 01:47:50,870 --> 01:47:49,520 mentally handicapped 3120 01:47:53,270 --> 01:47:50,880 you know because these different 3121 01:47:55,910 --> 01:47:53,280 energies have these physical effects 3122 01:47:56,870 --> 01:47:55,920 because everything has to be played out 3123 01:47:59,590 --> 01:47:56,880 by these 3124 01:48:01,669 --> 01:47:59,600 you know certain physical rules and the 3125 01:48:05,109 --> 01:48:01,679 one thing that can't be circumvented 3126 01:48:07,510 --> 01:48:05,119 is the physical you know uh body 3127 01:48:08,149 --> 01:48:07,520 and the mind in which we you know kind 3128 01:48:14,070 --> 01:48:08,159 of 3129 01:48:16,109 --> 01:48:14,080 we have to raise this vibration it's 3130 01:48:18,550 --> 01:48:16,119 almost like a very 3131 01:48:19,669 --> 01:48:18,560 oversimplified form of the fear i'm 3132 01:48:21,669 --> 01:48:19,679 talking about 3133 01:48:23,590 --> 01:48:21,679 is that let's say you're deathly afraid 3134 01:48:25,910 --> 01:48:23,600 of snakes and somebody's asking you to 3135 01:48:28,310 --> 01:48:25,920 hold the snake in your hand 3136 01:48:28,950 --> 01:48:28,320 you know what i mean um it would it 3137 01:48:31,350 --> 01:48:28,960 would be 3138 01:48:32,070 --> 01:48:31,360 you know it's like this this fear and 3139 01:48:35,030 --> 01:48:32,080 then this 3140 01:48:35,750 --> 01:48:35,040 this uh that it's almost uncontrollable 3141 01:48:39,350 --> 01:48:35,760 you know 3142 01:48:41,510 --> 01:48:39,360 and so um then that same 3143 01:48:42,470 --> 01:48:41,520 night when i was going to bed and i was 3144 01:48:44,629 --> 01:48:42,480 kind of like i was 3145 01:48:46,470 --> 01:48:44,639 i was mad at myself that i couldn't push 3146 01:48:48,470 --> 01:48:46,480 through it but they also understood and 3147 01:48:51,350 --> 01:48:48,480 they were respectable enough not to 3148 01:48:52,390 --> 01:48:51,360 keep pushing as much as i you know might 3149 01:48:54,229 --> 01:48:52,400 have wanted it 3150 01:48:55,510 --> 01:48:54,239 because they knew what the limit would 3151 01:48:58,870 --> 01:48:55,520 be you know 3152 01:49:01,590 --> 01:48:58,880 and um it's it's equivalent to to 3153 01:49:03,510 --> 01:49:01,600 let's say having a child that's maybe 3154 01:49:05,669 --> 01:49:03,520 old enough to just understand 3155 01:49:07,910 --> 01:49:05,679 certain things like say seven or eight 3156 01:49:10,709 --> 01:49:07,920 and then you expose them to like 3157 01:49:11,189 --> 01:49:10,719 um scary movies or vile things like 3158 01:49:13,189 --> 01:49:11,199 death 3159 01:49:14,310 --> 01:49:13,199 and the things that human nature is 3160 01:49:16,390 --> 01:49:14,320 capable of 3161 01:49:18,390 --> 01:49:16,400 you know to then of the sudden expose 3162 01:49:19,910 --> 01:49:18,400 that innocent mind to that level it 3163 01:49:22,950 --> 01:49:19,920 would be it would have been a shock 3164 01:49:24,709 --> 01:49:22,960 to that would be traumatized and so 3165 01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:24,719 not saying that there's something vile 3166 01:49:28,550 --> 01:49:26,159 about the contact but 3167 01:49:30,149 --> 01:49:28,560 the feeling of it excuse me the feeling 3168 01:49:33,189 --> 01:49:30,159 of it is similar to that 3169 01:49:34,149 --> 01:49:33,199 to where it's so strong you you 3170 01:49:36,629 --> 01:49:34,159 basically are 3171 01:49:38,310 --> 01:49:36,639 being that fish to where of the sudden 3172 01:49:40,390 --> 01:49:38,320 like you're realizing you're in water 3173 01:49:41,669 --> 01:49:40,400 you're realizing that there's also earth 3174 01:49:41,990 --> 01:49:41,679 and then you're realizing that this 3175 01:49:44,070 --> 01:49:42,000 water 3176 01:49:46,229 --> 01:49:44,080 is part of a planet all these things to 3177 01:49:48,310 --> 01:49:46,239 start expanding and the mind just 3178 01:49:49,430 --> 01:49:48,320 just wants to shut down you know that's 3179 01:49:51,109 --> 01:49:49,440 why often i always 3180 01:49:53,030 --> 01:49:51,119 you know tell people it's a lot easier 3181 01:49:55,510 --> 01:49:53,040 when you're trying to go to sleep or to 3182 01:49:58,070 --> 01:49:55,520 meditation than to allow 3183 01:49:59,510 --> 01:49:58,080 to to whatever communication could 3184 01:50:00,470 --> 01:49:59,520 happen happen to have a bad 3185 01:50:02,229 --> 01:50:00,480 understanding 3186 01:50:03,990 --> 01:50:02,239 but i was going to say that night when i 3187 01:50:05,430 --> 01:50:04,000 laid there and i basically 3188 01:50:07,430 --> 01:50:05,440 was mad at myself and wanted to 3189 01:50:09,109 --> 01:50:07,440 understand why didn't it go through why 3190 01:50:12,470 --> 01:50:09,119 did it go through the final 3191 01:50:15,350 --> 01:50:12,480 final phase um it basically 3192 01:50:17,510 --> 01:50:15,360 the all i kind of got was this feeling 3193 01:50:18,229 --> 01:50:17,520 that overcame me and it was more of if i 3194 01:50:20,070 --> 01:50:18,239 had to 3195 01:50:22,390 --> 01:50:20,080 put an imagery behind it it was more 3196 01:50:23,189 --> 01:50:22,400 like you see we tried and you see what 3197 01:50:26,629 --> 01:50:23,199 happened 3198 01:50:27,270 --> 01:50:26,639 you know and it kind of like oh okay i 3199 01:50:29,830 --> 01:50:27,280 get it 3200 01:50:31,270 --> 01:50:29,840 you know i understand now you know 3201 01:50:32,390 --> 01:50:31,280 because a lot of these people they 3202 01:50:34,950 --> 01:50:32,400 always say 3203 01:50:37,189 --> 01:50:34,960 um you know i was abducted like i lost 3204 01:50:38,470 --> 01:50:37,199 track of time and the hour went by 3205 01:50:40,709 --> 01:50:38,480 you know and i don't know what happened 3206 01:50:43,189 --> 01:50:40,719 and then they came back a lot of times 3207 01:50:44,790 --> 01:50:43,199 they always want to attribute it and not 3208 01:50:46,629 --> 01:50:44,800 that it's not possible but they always 3209 01:50:48,070 --> 01:50:46,639 want to attribute it to the aliens doing 3210 01:50:49,270 --> 01:50:48,080 something they're furious and shutting 3211 01:50:51,589 --> 01:50:49,280 down their memory 3212 01:50:53,030 --> 01:50:51,599 but it's in reality you know your higher 3213 01:50:55,669 --> 01:50:53,040 self like shuts down 3214 01:50:57,109 --> 01:50:55,679 the body before it can you know do more 3215 01:50:58,629 --> 01:50:57,119 psychological damage 3216 01:51:01,109 --> 01:50:58,639 and the next thing you know once that 3217 01:51:02,870 --> 01:51:01,119 shift has occurred you know once that 3218 01:51:05,430 --> 01:51:02,880 physical adjustment has happened while 3219 01:51:07,270 --> 01:51:05,440 you're under uh you it is possible for 3220 01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:07,280 you to wake up let's say on their ships 3221 01:51:10,709 --> 01:51:09,040 because that by that time your vibration 3222 01:51:11,350 --> 01:51:10,719 has changed you're already on their 3223 01:51:14,470 --> 01:51:11,360 level 3224 01:51:16,070 --> 01:51:14,480 and so now you can see more for who they 3225 01:51:18,149 --> 01:51:16,080 are but their environment is going to be 3226 01:51:20,310 --> 01:51:18,159 weird because it's not your dimension 3227 01:51:22,149 --> 01:51:20,320 so it's going to have similarities to 3228 01:51:24,070 --> 01:51:22,159 your dimension but it's not quite 3229 01:51:26,070 --> 01:51:24,080 it and so of course they have their 3230 01:51:27,270 --> 01:51:26,080 individual looks and they do whatever it 3231 01:51:30,229 --> 01:51:27,280 is that they do 3232 01:51:32,470 --> 01:51:30,239 you know and um uh but it's not you know 3233 01:51:35,189 --> 01:51:32,480 uncommon to hear or to know that certain 3234 01:51:36,629 --> 01:51:35,199 you know aliens can calm down far enough 3235 01:51:39,109 --> 01:51:36,639 to where we can perceive them 3236 01:51:40,950 --> 01:51:39,119 physically here in our reality and then 3237 01:51:42,950 --> 01:51:40,960 we can interact with them more 3238 01:51:44,870 --> 01:51:42,960 because now they've adjusted their 3239 01:51:46,470 --> 01:51:44,880 energy and they're not kind of radiating 3240 01:51:48,390 --> 01:51:46,480 it out all the time to where it does 3241 01:51:53,270 --> 01:51:48,400 psychological damage to us 3242 01:51:56,229 --> 01:51:53,280 you know but um those are 3243 01:51:57,589 --> 01:51:56,239 a few stories that you know that that 3244 01:51:59,270 --> 01:51:57,599 that i've that i've heard 3245 01:52:00,709 --> 01:51:59,280 you know usually it's always been the 3246 01:52:04,390 --> 01:52:00,719 the higher 3247 01:52:05,830 --> 01:52:04,400 ask you to kind of do a little bit of 3248 01:52:08,070 --> 01:52:05,840 your own work to just 3249 01:52:09,270 --> 01:52:08,080 come up just enough to where then you 3250 01:52:12,709 --> 01:52:09,280 can you can 3251 01:52:14,070 --> 01:52:12,719 at least meet in the dream world anita i 3252 01:52:15,510 --> 01:52:14,080 hope that that makes sense what i'm 3253 01:52:18,310 --> 01:52:15,520 saying 3254 01:52:19,189 --> 01:52:18,320 yeah absolutely yeah yeah so we've been 3255 01:52:20,550 --> 01:52:19,199 talking for quite a while 3256 01:52:23,030 --> 01:52:20,560 now is there anybody else that wants to 3257 01:52:25,589 --> 01:52:23,040 ask questions or tell us share stories 3258 01:52:27,430 --> 01:52:25,599 uh well i mean uh uh there's patrick i 3259 01:52:29,189 --> 01:52:27,440 don't know if he live raises his hand i 3260 01:52:31,189 --> 01:52:29,199 know he wants to talk otherwise 3261 01:52:32,229 --> 01:52:31,199 you know he's probably just logged in to 3262 01:52:34,550 --> 01:52:32,239 listen but 3263 01:52:36,629 --> 01:52:34,560 uh you know we have you know people 3264 01:52:39,910 --> 01:52:36,639 watching and listening to us on 3265 01:52:42,470 --> 01:52:39,920 on youtube on or off and um 3266 01:52:44,629 --> 01:52:42,480 you know so even though it's just us 3267 01:52:50,709 --> 01:52:44,639 three in the telegram chat there's a lot 3268 01:52:53,589 --> 01:52:52,629 yes i was thinking the reason why i 3269 01:52:55,589 --> 01:52:53,599 wanted to ask that questions because 3270 01:52:56,870 --> 01:52:55,599 like i said i feel like uh yeah i think 3271 01:52:58,629 --> 01:52:56,880 i think actually so 3272 01:52:59,990 --> 01:52:58,639 like that brings us back to our earlier 3273 01:53:01,910 --> 01:53:00,000 point with that uh 3274 01:53:03,030 --> 01:53:01,920 uh that these are the point i was trying 3275 01:53:05,510 --> 01:53:03,040 to make earlier the 3276 01:53:07,030 --> 01:53:05,520 these tactics that the cabal are doing 3277 01:53:08,709 --> 01:53:07,040 is actually having the reverse 3278 01:53:10,390 --> 01:53:08,719 opposite effect at least as far as i'm 3279 01:53:12,390 --> 01:53:10,400 concerned like like this whole 3280 01:53:13,990 --> 01:53:12,400 pandemic thing the way that we saw 3281 01:53:16,149 --> 01:53:14,000 through it like instantly 3282 01:53:17,510 --> 01:53:16,159 it almost gave me it like eliminated my 3283 01:53:19,430 --> 01:53:17,520 fears of other things that i was holding 3284 01:53:22,709 --> 01:53:19,440 on to because really what other fears 3285 01:53:24,709 --> 01:53:22,719 did i before i i sort of awoken and and 3286 01:53:25,990 --> 01:53:24,719 became less fearful what other fears 3287 01:53:27,270 --> 01:53:26,000 like the ufos 3288 01:53:28,709 --> 01:53:27,280 maybe is one they've taught us when 3289 01:53:29,830 --> 01:53:28,719 we're little kids with all the greatest 3290 01:53:31,030 --> 01:53:29,840 blockbuster hollywood movies that 3291 01:53:33,669 --> 01:53:31,040 they're to be feared 3292 01:53:35,030 --> 01:53:33,679 uh the uh well the fear of authority you 3293 01:53:35,589 --> 01:53:35,040 know you get taught from your little kid 3294 01:53:38,070 --> 01:53:35,599 to 3295 01:53:39,830 --> 01:53:38,080 obey sit down shut up and fear authority 3296 01:53:40,550 --> 01:53:39,840 um so all these things so i think maybe 3297 01:53:41,430 --> 01:53:40,560 it was maybe 3298 01:53:43,430 --> 01:53:41,440 something with that with like the 3299 01:53:45,030 --> 01:53:43,440 pandemic like this it's so big it's so 3300 01:53:47,990 --> 01:53:45,040 obvious it's so fake 3301 01:53:48,709 --> 01:53:48,000 and and it's just i'm just i have no 3302 01:53:50,390 --> 01:53:48,719 fear about it 3303 01:53:51,830 --> 01:53:50,400 whatsoever and then i got to i guess i 3304 01:53:55,669 --> 01:53:51,840 guess maybe that almost 3305 01:53:58,310 --> 01:53:55,679 sort of galvanized that that sort of 3306 01:54:00,550 --> 01:53:58,320 desire for that that same that same when 3307 01:54:02,790 --> 01:54:00,560 i first learned about 911 being a 3308 01:54:04,149 --> 01:54:02,800 you know something off about that that 3309 01:54:05,589 --> 01:54:04,159 that searching that's searching and i 3310 01:54:07,270 --> 01:54:05,599 guess that's why i kind of come full 3311 01:54:08,629 --> 01:54:07,280 circle and now i'm right back here where 3312 01:54:09,830 --> 01:54:08,639 where's a few years i don't know 3313 01:54:10,470 --> 01:54:09,840 actually it's quite a while i kind of 3314 01:54:13,510 --> 01:54:10,480 actually 3315 01:54:15,430 --> 01:54:13,520 because i know i know 3316 01:54:17,030 --> 01:54:15,440 you know i've been with my wife for four 3317 01:54:19,109 --> 01:54:17,040 years now and i know i kind of 3318 01:54:20,709 --> 01:54:19,119 stopped that sort of searching this 3319 01:54:22,149 --> 01:54:20,719 whole time and i've only recently sort 3320 01:54:23,910 --> 01:54:22,159 of gone back down that road 3321 01:54:25,589 --> 01:54:23,920 but now i feel like you know that those 3322 01:54:27,030 --> 01:54:25,599 same experiences that i was having that 3323 01:54:29,109 --> 01:54:27,040 did kind of uh scare me 3324 01:54:30,070 --> 01:54:29,119 and like i said i think a lot of it the 3325 01:54:30,950 --> 01:54:30,080 things that were actually scaring me 3326 01:54:33,589 --> 01:54:30,960 were not the 3327 01:54:35,510 --> 01:54:33,599 not the ufo encounters not the the 3328 01:54:36,149 --> 01:54:35,520 experiences i was having regarding ufos 3329 01:54:39,430 --> 01:54:36,159 and and 3330 01:54:40,870 --> 01:54:39,440 extraterrestrials um was it was the uh 3331 01:54:42,790 --> 01:54:40,880 we learned we had a poltergeist in my 3332 01:54:44,070 --> 01:54:42,800 house and i was doing these out-of-body 3333 01:54:45,270 --> 01:54:44,080 experiences and all of a sudden i'd be 3334 01:54:47,350 --> 01:54:45,280 approached by this 3335 01:54:48,870 --> 01:54:47,360 really dark malevolent thing and i i 3336 01:54:49,350 --> 01:54:48,880 just assumed because at that same time i 3337 01:54:51,270 --> 01:54:49,360 was like 3338 01:54:53,109 --> 01:54:51,280 intensely studying ufology i thought it 3339 01:54:54,470 --> 01:54:53,119 was the same thing and there was and it 3340 01:54:55,510 --> 01:54:54,480 just scared the crap out of me so i just 3341 01:54:57,350 --> 01:54:55,520 sort of 3342 01:54:59,350 --> 01:54:57,360 went running in the other direction i 3343 01:55:01,189 --> 01:54:59,360 mean not like physically but uh i was 3344 01:55:02,390 --> 01:55:01,199 just kind of like well i need to slow 3345 01:55:04,390 --> 01:55:02,400 let's put the brakes on a little bit on 3346 01:55:06,870 --> 01:55:04,400 this line of uh you know 3347 01:55:08,390 --> 01:55:06,880 where i was going there um but now i'm 3348 01:55:08,870 --> 01:55:08,400 like full circle maybe maybe that's 3349 01:55:10,149 --> 01:55:08,880 maybe that's 3350 01:55:12,790 --> 01:55:10,159 another positive thing that might come 3351 01:55:14,310 --> 01:55:12,800 out of this very seemingly negative 3352 01:55:16,310 --> 01:55:14,320 thing this pandemic and all the bs 3353 01:55:18,229 --> 01:55:16,320 they're trying to spin and sell us 3354 01:55:19,589 --> 01:55:18,239 is that like for me at least it seems 3355 01:55:21,350 --> 01:55:19,599 like it's kind of 3356 01:55:23,030 --> 01:55:21,360 removed even other fears that i didn't 3357 01:55:25,109 --> 01:55:23,040 even really know i had you know 3358 01:55:26,149 --> 01:55:25,119 like uh that that you know that fear 3359 01:55:28,950 --> 01:55:26,159 that i had adopted 3360 01:55:30,149 --> 01:55:28,960 and took on before uh i was able to see 3361 01:55:31,830 --> 01:55:30,159 through this stuff and 3362 01:55:33,109 --> 01:55:31,840 i can only just imagine what's what's 3363 01:55:34,390 --> 01:55:33,119 next what's to come it just keeps 3364 01:55:36,149 --> 01:55:34,400 getting better and better 3365 01:55:38,149 --> 01:55:36,159 well you know what the thing is i think 3366 01:55:39,669 --> 01:55:38,159 i said this before a lot of 3367 01:55:42,070 --> 01:55:39,679 a lot of people always say i don't i 3368 01:55:44,229 --> 01:55:42,080 don't watch the news you know i i'm not 3369 01:55:45,750 --> 01:55:44,239 that into the news and and you know i 3370 01:55:46,629 --> 01:55:45,760 just hardly watch it i have better 3371 01:55:49,350 --> 01:55:46,639 things to do 3372 01:55:51,109 --> 01:55:49,360 but yet then they exactly act exactly as 3373 01:55:53,830 --> 01:55:51,119 the news tells them to 3374 01:55:55,350 --> 01:55:53,840 you know and and they don't see that you 3375 01:55:57,270 --> 01:55:55,360 know they don't see that as a 3376 01:55:59,189 --> 01:55:57,280 maybe an internal contradiction that 3377 01:56:00,149 --> 01:55:59,199 they would maybe would benefit them to 3378 01:56:04,070 --> 01:56:00,159 look at 3379 01:56:05,669 --> 01:56:04,080 you know because um when it 3380 01:56:07,430 --> 01:56:05,679 you know when it comes to a lot of the 3381 01:56:09,189 --> 01:56:07,440 information that's out there thankfully 3382 01:56:11,350 --> 01:56:09,199 there's a lot of statistics 3383 01:56:12,550 --> 01:56:11,360 that have been they've been out to about 3384 01:56:15,589 --> 01:56:12,560 all kinds of things 3385 01:56:17,030 --> 01:56:15,599 and as um as an example i thought about 3386 01:56:18,870 --> 01:56:17,040 doing this but then i was like it's too 3387 01:56:19,830 --> 01:56:18,880 much for me to figure out with obs and 3388 01:56:21,589 --> 01:56:19,840 all this other stuff 3389 01:56:23,189 --> 01:56:21,599 they have like a live counter life 3390 01:56:25,510 --> 01:56:23,199 ticker of numbers 3391 01:56:27,750 --> 01:56:25,520 just going up and up and up and up and 3392 01:56:28,470 --> 01:56:27,760 then separating them and so make people 3393 01:56:30,790 --> 01:56:28,480 wonder 3394 01:56:33,430 --> 01:56:30,800 and then just basically you know that by 3395 01:56:35,669 --> 01:56:33,440 the time the show has started at a time 3396 01:56:36,950 --> 01:56:35,679 the show has ended to you'll see 3397 01:56:38,390 --> 01:56:36,960 increase in numbers 3398 01:56:40,310 --> 01:56:38,400 and then there would be let's say a 3399 01:56:42,229 --> 01:56:40,320 number that has come in from people that 3400 01:56:45,109 --> 01:56:42,239 have died in car accidents 3401 01:56:46,229 --> 01:56:45,119 you know and if you watch those numbers 3402 01:56:47,830 --> 01:56:46,239 and you would have been you 3403 01:56:49,910 --> 01:56:47,840 would have thought there's a pandemic 3404 01:56:50,950 --> 01:56:49,920 happening of car accidents that we need 3405 01:56:53,510 --> 01:56:50,960 to stop 3406 01:56:54,629 --> 01:56:53,520 you know because not everyone has has 3407 01:56:56,550 --> 01:56:54,639 been exposed 3408 01:56:58,629 --> 01:56:56,560 to these different things in that way 3409 01:56:59,430 --> 01:56:58,639 they just look at the news as this 3410 01:57:01,669 --> 01:56:59,440 benevolent 3411 01:57:02,470 --> 01:57:01,679 uh source that oh they just want the 3412 01:57:06,149 --> 01:57:02,480 best 3413 01:57:07,669 --> 01:57:06,159 don't realize that 3414 01:57:09,589 --> 01:57:07,679 they're basically being you know 3415 01:57:10,070 --> 01:57:09,599 fear-mongered and trying to push and 3416 01:57:12,390 --> 01:57:10,080 shove 3417 01:57:13,350 --> 01:57:12,400 you know certain things in certain ways 3418 01:57:15,350 --> 01:57:13,360 you know um 3419 01:57:16,790 --> 01:57:15,360 it was very interesting a conversation i 3420 01:57:18,310 --> 01:57:16,800 had with the lady you know it's like i 3421 01:57:20,470 --> 01:57:18,320 didn't really get too much into her she 3422 01:57:20,790 --> 01:57:20,480 was an old older lady and so i have you 3423 01:57:26,229 --> 01:57:20,800 know 3424 01:57:27,669 --> 01:57:26,239 i don't get into it with them i'm always 3425 01:57:30,550 --> 01:57:27,679 very polite and just 3426 01:57:31,430 --> 01:57:30,560 when something is when i realize like i 3427 01:57:33,910 --> 01:57:31,440 can't get to 3428 01:57:35,830 --> 01:57:33,920 a certain point in the conversation with 3429 01:57:37,669 --> 01:57:35,840 them i just leave it at that 3430 01:57:38,950 --> 01:57:37,679 but they say she was so excited she's 3431 01:57:42,629 --> 01:57:38,960 like wow 3432 01:57:44,629 --> 01:57:42,639 did you hear we eradicated the flu 3433 01:57:46,149 --> 01:57:44,639 i was like oh really i knew what she was 3434 01:57:46,470 --> 01:57:46,159 talking about but i was just like you 3435 01:57:48,790 --> 01:57:46,480 know 3436 01:57:50,390 --> 01:57:48,800 being conversational she's like yeah you 3437 01:57:53,430 --> 01:57:50,400 see what happened we all just wore the 3438 01:57:56,470 --> 01:57:53,440 mask you know the flu went away 3439 01:57:58,390 --> 01:57:56,480 and i'm just sitting there like uh 3440 01:57:59,910 --> 01:57:58,400 you know just being very polite i was 3441 01:58:01,270 --> 01:57:59,920 like well that's a that's an interesting 3442 01:58:02,629 --> 01:58:01,280 point and then soon after i was like 3443 01:58:04,070 --> 01:58:02,639 well thanks for the conversation i 3444 01:58:06,870 --> 01:58:04,080 walked away 3445 01:58:08,550 --> 01:58:06,880 that's over a hundred plus years since 3446 01:58:10,310 --> 01:58:08,560 we had the flu 3447 01:58:11,669 --> 01:58:10,320 there was no vaccine that could have 3448 01:58:13,510 --> 01:58:11,679 been developed for it did they 3449 01:58:15,430 --> 01:58:13,520 constantly have to change it because it 3450 01:58:16,950 --> 01:58:15,440 mutates and evolves because the way our 3451 01:58:20,390 --> 01:58:16,960 human bodies work 3452 01:58:22,870 --> 01:58:20,400 and but what she was told by the news 3453 01:58:24,070 --> 01:58:22,880 is that because we you know majority of 3454 01:58:26,790 --> 01:58:24,080 people were massive 3455 01:58:28,149 --> 01:58:26,800 already eradicated the flu and i was 3456 01:58:29,910 --> 01:58:28,159 like hold on a minute 3457 01:58:31,910 --> 01:58:29,920 you can't tell me just overnight 3458 01:58:33,750 --> 01:58:31,920 eradicated you know look at all the 3459 01:58:35,589 --> 01:58:33,760 different videos where people were 3460 01:58:37,669 --> 01:58:35,599 counting the flu 3461 01:58:38,790 --> 01:58:37,679 escovid we're counting all these 3462 01:58:40,790 --> 01:58:38,800 different things 3463 01:58:42,790 --> 01:58:40,800 you know that then added to the 3464 01:58:45,030 --> 01:58:42,800 statistics that didn't belong 3465 01:58:46,229 --> 01:58:45,040 you know but again you're not allowed to 3466 01:58:47,669 --> 01:58:46,239 say that you know 3467 01:58:49,430 --> 01:58:47,679 and i'm still surprised they're still 3468 01:58:50,709 --> 01:58:49,440 allowing me to stream because the stream 3469 01:58:52,950 --> 01:58:50,719 is still on 3470 01:58:53,990 --> 01:58:52,960 you know and the point here is that i 3471 01:58:55,750 --> 01:58:54,000 have no 3472 01:58:57,669 --> 01:58:55,760 agenda it's like if there's something 3473 01:59:00,310 --> 01:58:57,679 that that's a danger to 3474 01:59:01,030 --> 01:59:00,320 mankind you know humankind let's look at 3475 01:59:03,109 --> 01:59:01,040 it together 3476 01:59:05,750 --> 01:59:03,119 you know but for some reason it's like 3477 01:59:08,390 --> 01:59:05,760 uh that is not allowed it's like if i 3478 01:59:10,070 --> 01:59:08,400 say that it's like you did the what you 3479 01:59:11,990 --> 01:59:10,080 know you the odd man out 3480 01:59:13,910 --> 01:59:12,000 you know it's like and basically it's 3481 01:59:15,270 --> 01:59:13,920 just nothing but animosity 3482 01:59:16,550 --> 01:59:15,280 you know that's what i couldn't 3483 01:59:17,030 --> 01:59:16,560 understand i was like well hold on a 3484 01:59:20,070 --> 01:59:17,040 minute 3485 01:59:21,830 --> 01:59:20,080 you know how can you say we we're 3486 01:59:23,350 --> 01:59:21,840 proceeding with this scientifically and 3487 01:59:26,709 --> 01:59:23,360 we're going to use science 3488 01:59:28,470 --> 01:59:26,719 but you know then when we try to apply 3489 01:59:29,990 --> 01:59:28,480 statistics and science and everything 3490 01:59:35,430 --> 01:59:30,000 else that we know now it's 3491 01:59:41,990 --> 01:59:38,709 anyway nathan is still there 3492 01:59:46,629 --> 01:59:43,589 i'm sorry continue whatever else you 3493 01:59:54,229 --> 01:59:50,950 oh i think that was it okay so 3494 01:59:56,149 --> 01:59:54,239 well is there um i can't seem to 3495 01:59:57,990 --> 01:59:56,159 i can't seem to see any other uh 3496 01:59:59,109 --> 01:59:58,000 questions in chat if you have any you 3497 02:00:00,950 --> 01:59:59,119 know throw them out there 3498 02:00:02,629 --> 02:00:00,960 you know at least it's something that we 3499 02:00:06,390 --> 02:00:02,639 could we could discuss 3500 02:00:09,430 --> 02:00:06,400 um nathan nathan is online and 3501 02:00:11,270 --> 02:00:09,440 we're just chilling talking and uh 3502 02:00:13,189 --> 02:00:11,280 i hope all of you watching are getting 3503 02:00:15,510 --> 02:00:13,199 something out of it out there 3504 02:00:16,709 --> 02:00:15,520 and um i guess we're just playing off of 3505 02:00:19,030 --> 02:00:16,719 each other's ideas 3506 02:00:20,790 --> 02:00:19,040 you know he'll say something reminds me 3507 02:00:23,270 --> 02:00:20,800 of something to talk about i see 3508 02:00:24,950 --> 02:00:23,280 something reminds him to talk about so 3509 02:00:26,470 --> 02:00:24,960 i guess if you want to just keep 3510 02:00:29,030 --> 02:00:26,480 watching this exchange you're more than 3511 02:00:30,709 --> 02:00:29,040 welcome to 3512 02:00:33,430 --> 02:00:30,719 yeah if there's if there's some 3513 02:00:36,550 --> 02:00:33,440 questions that you would uh like to ask 3514 02:00:39,350 --> 02:00:36,560 that we could maybe ponder about or 3515 02:00:40,070 --> 02:00:39,360 address just write it and chat with the 3516 02:00:44,149 --> 02:00:40,080 three 3517 02:00:47,669 --> 02:00:44,159 questions so i know it's a question 3518 02:00:51,109 --> 02:00:49,750 so nathan um have you been to any 3519 02:00:52,709 --> 02:00:51,119 meetings at all 3520 02:00:54,629 --> 02:00:52,719 or you said last time i think you said 3521 02:00:55,030 --> 02:00:54,639 you haven't in san luis obispo not to 3522 02:00:56,950 --> 02:00:55,040 the one 3523 02:00:58,149 --> 02:00:56,960 that we were going to many years ago but 3524 02:00:59,589 --> 02:00:58,159 there's uh there's a 3525 02:01:01,669 --> 02:00:59,599 whole different group of people getting 3526 02:01:03,510 --> 02:01:01,679 together nowadays uh 3527 02:01:04,709 --> 02:01:03,520 mainly you know instigated by all this 3528 02:01:06,629 --> 02:01:04,719 craziness 3529 02:01:09,189 --> 02:01:06,639 you know and um and a lot of these 3530 02:01:11,669 --> 02:01:09,199 people are our brand brands spanking new 3531 02:01:12,229 --> 02:01:11,679 with their eyes just newly opened to the 3532 02:01:13,990 --> 02:01:12,239 to this 3533 02:01:15,270 --> 02:01:14,000 to all the you know the i guess you call 3534 02:01:17,669 --> 02:01:15,280 it like the greater reality or 3535 02:01:18,310 --> 02:01:17,679 or just the deception you know going on 3536 02:01:19,669 --> 02:01:18,320 and they're 3537 02:01:21,910 --> 02:01:19,679 in there and you can tell they're like 3538 02:01:23,270 --> 02:01:21,920 they're so eager to to share everything 3539 02:01:24,629 --> 02:01:23,280 they learn and it's just it's wonderful 3540 02:01:26,070 --> 02:01:24,639 it's a really beautiful site and it's 3541 02:01:26,790 --> 02:01:26,080 good to be there for the for these 3542 02:01:28,950 --> 02:01:26,800 people and there are 3543 02:01:30,550 --> 02:01:28,960 these groups getting together um i've 3544 02:01:32,149 --> 02:01:30,560 lost touch with a lot of the 3545 02:01:33,510 --> 02:01:32,159 people that were part of those original 3546 02:01:35,030 --> 02:01:33,520 groups you know whatever 10 years ago or 3547 02:01:36,950 --> 02:01:35,040 whatever that was 3548 02:01:38,550 --> 02:01:36,960 um i i did have a question for you not 3549 02:01:39,750 --> 02:01:38,560 have you know talking about censorship 3550 02:01:41,189 --> 02:01:39,760 and stuff like that and you know we need 3551 02:01:42,790 --> 02:01:41,199 to be careful with buzzwords we say 3552 02:01:44,870 --> 02:01:42,800 i i assume i don't know how well the 3553 02:01:46,870 --> 02:01:44,880 algorithm works for live streams 3554 02:01:48,310 --> 02:01:46,880 i'm guessing just as good but have you 3555 02:01:49,350 --> 02:01:48,320 personally been experiencing any of it 3556 02:01:50,470 --> 02:01:49,360 recently because most of your 3557 02:01:52,310 --> 02:01:50,480 information 3558 02:01:54,709 --> 02:01:52,320 uh is so i mean most of your speakers 3559 02:01:57,189 --> 02:01:54,719 and stuff like that are so uh 3560 02:01:58,870 --> 02:01:57,199 it's it's so uh beneficial you know it's 3561 02:02:00,070 --> 02:01:58,880 such a good message that humanity needs 3562 02:02:02,149 --> 02:02:00,080 to hear right now 3563 02:02:03,589 --> 02:02:02,159 and uh but it's not like directly 3564 02:02:07,430 --> 02:02:03,599 talking about 3565 02:02:09,109 --> 02:02:07,440 the things that they're they're actively 3566 02:02:11,589 --> 02:02:09,119 actively trying to censor and keep 3567 02:02:12,149 --> 02:02:11,599 out of the odd off what do you call that 3568 02:02:15,669 --> 02:02:12,159 the 3569 02:02:17,910 --> 02:02:15,679 biggest 3570 02:02:20,070 --> 02:02:17,920 you know threat to their whole charade 3571 02:02:21,750 --> 02:02:20,080 is is controlling the narrative 3572 02:02:23,350 --> 02:02:21,760 and you know this type of information 3573 02:02:24,870 --> 02:02:23,360 threatens that what has been your 3574 02:02:25,910 --> 02:02:24,880 experience with ufo hub and your 3575 02:02:27,750 --> 02:02:25,920 different speakers have you gotten 3576 02:02:31,350 --> 02:02:27,760 videos pulled 3577 02:02:33,910 --> 02:02:31,360 um no i mean there's um there's one on 3578 02:02:35,910 --> 02:02:33,920 richard dolan that got demonetized 3579 02:02:37,030 --> 02:02:35,920 they wouldn't allow me to monetize it 3580 02:02:40,470 --> 02:02:37,040 because um 3581 02:02:42,950 --> 02:02:40,480 i think he was talking about false flags 3582 02:02:45,350 --> 02:02:42,960 and um you know it's a very very well 3583 02:02:47,189 --> 02:02:45,360 known respected person ufology 3584 02:02:49,510 --> 02:02:47,199 you know richard dolan and he was 3585 02:02:52,229 --> 02:02:49,520 talking about 3586 02:02:53,030 --> 02:02:52,239 you know false flags in in general and 3587 02:02:57,030 --> 02:02:53,040 what 3588 02:02:58,950 --> 02:02:57,040 they they play in that 3589 02:03:00,470 --> 02:02:58,960 and i guess there was too much for them 3590 02:03:02,470 --> 02:03:00,480 there was also one that actually i 3591 02:03:03,910 --> 02:03:02,480 wasn't even talking about 911 it was 3592 02:03:05,910 --> 02:03:03,920 just a talk i gave at 3593 02:03:08,550 --> 02:03:05,920 uh one of the san luis meetings i have 3594 02:03:11,030 --> 02:03:08,560 it online it's called the 3595 02:03:12,870 --> 02:03:11,040 spiritual aspects of 9 11. and that's 3596 02:03:13,990 --> 02:03:12,880 all the title is because the rest of it 3597 02:03:17,270 --> 02:03:14,000 is just kind of the more 3598 02:03:18,709 --> 02:03:17,280 the spiritual messages that i've had and 3599 02:03:20,550 --> 02:03:18,719 they took that down because of the 3600 02:03:23,990 --> 02:03:20,560 keyboard i guess 911 3601 02:03:26,550 --> 02:03:24,000 or something and so um they they 3602 02:03:28,470 --> 02:03:26,560 basically didn't allow me to to monetize 3603 02:03:32,310 --> 02:03:28,480 that part 3604 02:03:34,870 --> 02:03:32,320 so anyway um but yeah no surprisingly no 3605 02:03:37,030 --> 02:03:34,880 um i haven't and knock on wood i hope it 3606 02:03:41,109 --> 02:03:37,040 continues you know to stay that way 3607 02:03:44,070 --> 02:03:41,119 to where um it's like i'm not 3608 02:03:45,589 --> 02:03:44,080 you know asking anything crazy out here 3609 02:03:47,830 --> 02:03:45,599 you know all i'm if i'm 3610 02:03:49,589 --> 02:03:47,840 you know shining a light on something 3611 02:03:51,030 --> 02:03:49,599 just so that it can be looked at you 3612 02:03:52,870 --> 02:03:51,040 know not to be 3613 02:03:54,790 --> 02:03:52,880 you know something that needs to be shut 3614 02:03:58,950 --> 02:03:54,800 down or closed down 3615 02:04:02,310 --> 02:03:58,960 um nathan i see uh uh ramon 3616 02:04:05,350 --> 02:04:02,320 uh similar is uh wanting to 3617 02:04:06,550 --> 02:04:05,360 to to talk so i'm just gonna switch over 3618 02:04:08,790 --> 02:04:06,560 to him and and uh 3619 02:04:09,669 --> 02:04:08,800 you know stay put if you can maybe chat 3620 02:04:12,149 --> 02:04:09,679 later um 3621 02:04:13,589 --> 02:04:12,159 otherwise uh i was gonna switch over to 3622 02:04:15,510 --> 02:04:13,599 ramon 3623 02:04:21,589 --> 02:04:15,520 okay sounds good all right nathan thank 3624 02:04:21,599 --> 02:04:26,149 oh oh no 3625 02:04:36,830 --> 02:04:29,669 so i was about to unmute ramon and uh 3626 02:04:39,750 --> 02:04:38,229 back 3627 02:04:41,270 --> 02:04:39,760 all right nathan i got you i'm muted 3628 02:04:43,189 --> 02:04:41,280 again um i 3629 02:04:44,629 --> 02:04:43,199 wanted to unmute their mic so they can 3630 02:04:46,470 --> 02:04:44,639 start talking and then they 3631 02:04:51,030 --> 02:04:46,480 they went away i don't know if they 3632 02:04:54,790 --> 02:04:53,270 that's okay yeah they uh got 3633 02:04:57,589 --> 02:04:54,800 disconnected 3634 02:04:58,870 --> 02:04:57,599 right well see this you know because the 3635 02:05:00,149 --> 02:04:58,880 the reason why i asked you about the 3636 02:05:02,069 --> 02:05:00,159 meetings because usually 3637 02:05:03,750 --> 02:05:02,079 this was kind of how meetings would go 3638 02:05:04,870 --> 02:05:03,760 at these different you know i mean you 3639 02:05:07,669 --> 02:05:04,880 and i we went there 3640 02:05:09,750 --> 02:05:07,679 remember years ago and then started 3641 02:05:10,310 --> 02:05:09,760 going all around san luis whichever one 3642 02:05:14,470 --> 02:05:10,320 was 3643 02:05:16,709 --> 02:05:14,480 just discuss different things and then 3644 02:05:18,870 --> 02:05:16,719 ideas start flowing going back and forth 3645 02:05:20,470 --> 02:05:18,880 and we'll discuss all kinds of things 3646 02:05:22,310 --> 02:05:20,480 you know but the only difference now is 3647 02:05:24,629 --> 02:05:22,320 that it's just done and 3648 02:05:26,069 --> 02:05:24,639 open where everybody could just from the 3649 02:05:28,870 --> 02:05:26,079 safety of their own 3650 02:05:29,350 --> 02:05:28,880 room just chime in log in and and watch 3651 02:05:32,629 --> 02:05:29,360 it 3652 02:05:35,589 --> 02:05:32,639 to somebody and 3653 02:05:36,149 --> 02:05:35,599 and i guess if they're still shy about 3654 02:05:39,830 --> 02:05:36,159 it or 3655 02:05:41,990 --> 02:05:39,840 not wanting to be known yeah i should ch 3656 02:05:43,270 --> 02:05:42,000 do you remember was it like meetup.com 3657 02:05:44,470 --> 02:05:43,280 or something how did you find those 3658 02:05:47,510 --> 02:05:44,480 meetings originally like 3659 02:05:48,229 --> 02:05:47,520 i could check uh do you remember okay do 3660 02:05:51,350 --> 02:05:48,239 you remember 3661 02:05:51,750 --> 02:05:51,360 uh god it's been so long ago now was it 3662 02:05:56,550 --> 02:05:51,760 20 3663 02:05:59,830 --> 02:05:56,560 25 oh so 12 12 years ago now remember 3664 02:06:01,109 --> 02:05:59,840 uh light bearer i i got you know light 3665 02:06:03,830 --> 02:06:01,119 bearer 3666 02:06:04,629 --> 02:06:03,840 said i think i met him at your house and 3667 02:06:07,270 --> 02:06:04,639 um 3668 02:06:09,270 --> 02:06:07,280 he said there's this uh contact he that 3669 02:06:11,350 --> 02:06:09,280 has a meeting at a bowling alley i was 3670 02:06:13,430 --> 02:06:11,360 like really here in san luis 3671 02:06:15,430 --> 02:06:13,440 yeah and then we went to race meeting 3672 02:06:17,350 --> 02:06:15,440 then from there we learned that there's 3673 02:06:19,030 --> 02:06:17,360 you know mufa meeting that there's the 3674 02:06:21,189 --> 02:06:19,040 coasties meeting that there's all these 3675 02:06:22,709 --> 02:06:21,199 different meetings all over san luis 3676 02:06:25,189 --> 02:06:22,719 throughout the month and then we just 3677 02:06:27,109 --> 02:06:25,199 started to to go to majority of them 3678 02:06:29,669 --> 02:06:27,119 and i sometimes i couldn't make all of 3679 02:06:38,629 --> 02:06:29,679 them but you know 3680 02:06:43,350 --> 02:06:41,030 but yeah no have you been in touch with 3681 02:06:45,510 --> 02:06:43,360 anybody at all or not not even that so 3682 02:06:47,830 --> 02:06:45,520 not just going to meetings but you you 3683 02:06:49,830 --> 02:06:47,840 just not talking to any of them 3684 02:06:51,990 --> 02:06:49,840 i guess because there is really no there 3685 02:06:53,350 --> 02:06:52,000 wasn't like a general email list 3686 02:06:54,870 --> 02:06:53,360 that everyone could just email each 3687 02:06:56,550 --> 02:06:54,880 other you either showed up and you got 3688 02:06:57,990 --> 02:06:56,560 to see everybody and if you didn't if 3689 02:07:01,589 --> 02:06:58,000 unless you had that number there was 3690 02:07:05,189 --> 02:07:03,750 that's right yeah ron and sally actually 3691 02:07:06,870 --> 02:07:05,199 were the only ones that i still talk to 3692 02:07:08,390 --> 02:07:06,880 and and lightbearer i do see him 3693 02:07:12,629 --> 02:07:08,400 periodically 3694 02:07:15,030 --> 02:07:12,639 okay are they i guess are they going to 3695 02:07:16,390 --> 02:07:15,040 no wrong i'm running sandy or not i'm 3696 02:07:18,550 --> 02:07:16,400 sorry it's not sally sandy 3697 02:07:19,510 --> 02:07:18,560 or not uh but that was because ron was 3698 02:07:22,790 --> 02:07:19,520 really sick 3699 02:07:25,270 --> 02:07:22,800 um and lightbear how do you know 3700 02:07:27,750 --> 02:07:25,280 lightbear his name is lightbear 3701 02:07:30,709 --> 02:07:27,760 like like he was kind of a free spirit 3702 02:07:38,149 --> 02:07:34,950 well um i guess while i still have a 3703 02:07:38,550 --> 02:07:38,159 fairly high uh live count of people 3704 02:07:43,350 --> 02:07:38,560 right 3705 02:07:46,950 --> 02:07:43,360 a while back i was talking about 3706 02:07:49,189 --> 02:07:46,960 um getting uh george nori on 3707 02:07:50,709 --> 02:07:49,199 and that i haven't i haven't stopped 3708 02:07:51,270 --> 02:07:50,719 basically what we're trying to work out 3709 02:07:53,270 --> 02:07:51,280 is 3710 02:07:55,270 --> 02:07:53,280 for a time where it would work best for 3711 02:07:55,990 --> 02:07:55,280 him and we figured we'll just do kind of 3712 02:07:58,709 --> 02:07:56,000 like a q 3713 02:08:00,229 --> 02:07:58,719 a where um he would just come on and 3714 02:08:01,589 --> 02:08:00,239 then we'll just start out right away 3715 02:08:03,350 --> 02:08:01,599 with questions and answers 3716 02:08:05,109 --> 02:08:03,360 for those of you that don't know um 3717 02:08:07,030 --> 02:08:05,119 george nori is the host of coast to 3718 02:08:08,069 --> 02:08:07,040 coast i am right now and he kind of took 3719 02:08:12,310 --> 02:08:08,079 over uh 3720 02:08:15,750 --> 02:08:12,320 for art bell in 2005 or so or 2004 3721 02:08:16,390 --> 02:08:15,760 and so i don't know if you find that 3722 02:08:18,069 --> 02:08:16,400 useful 3723 02:08:20,149 --> 02:08:18,079 or whatever but it'll give you a chance 3724 02:08:22,149 --> 02:08:20,159 to to potentially you know 3725 02:08:23,669 --> 02:08:22,159 to to ask a question now what i've been 3726 02:08:27,430 --> 02:08:23,679 trying to figure out 3727 02:08:30,629 --> 02:08:27,440 on on my technical end is to 3728 02:08:31,589 --> 02:08:30,639 have skype and telegram be able to talk 3729 02:08:33,750 --> 02:08:31,599 to each other 3730 02:08:34,790 --> 02:08:33,760 at the same time streaming out to all of 3731 02:08:37,189 --> 02:08:34,800 you watching 3732 02:08:38,470 --> 02:08:37,199 so that that way when you do call in you 3733 02:08:40,550 --> 02:08:38,480 can directly ask 3734 02:08:42,069 --> 02:08:40,560 the person to have on skype the question 3735 02:08:44,629 --> 02:08:42,079 you want to answer i mean you want 3736 02:08:45,910 --> 02:08:44,639 uh to ask and they can answer you back 3737 02:08:47,510 --> 02:08:45,920 and you're hearing them 3738 02:08:48,870 --> 02:08:47,520 and so i've been kind of trying to 3739 02:08:50,629 --> 02:08:48,880 figure it out with different like 3740 02:08:51,990 --> 02:08:50,639 virtual cables and all these different 3741 02:08:53,189 --> 02:08:52,000 technical things that i don't want to 3742 02:08:55,350 --> 02:08:53,199 get into right now 3743 02:08:57,350 --> 02:08:55,360 but i'm trying my best to kind of spend 3744 02:08:58,229 --> 02:08:57,360 a little time to figure out how i can do 3745 02:09:00,069 --> 02:08:58,239 it so that 3746 02:09:02,149 --> 02:09:00,079 that way instead of me just reading the 3747 02:09:05,030 --> 02:09:02,159 question you can log in and ask to guess 3748 02:09:08,149 --> 02:09:05,040 the question yourself you know and um 3749 02:09:10,310 --> 02:09:08,159 but uh i'm sure the solution will come 3750 02:09:12,229 --> 02:09:10,320 to me because um i haven't been able to 3751 02:09:13,109 --> 02:09:12,239 like fully immerse myself in it to 3752 02:09:14,870 --> 02:09:13,119 figure it out 3753 02:09:17,109 --> 02:09:14,880 but that's been something on my mind to 3754 02:09:18,229 --> 02:09:17,119 have that capability and that ability 3755 02:09:20,870 --> 02:09:18,239 follow you 3756 02:09:21,589 --> 02:09:20,880 so that um you do get to you know call 3757 02:09:24,629 --> 02:09:21,599 in and then 3758 02:09:25,990 --> 02:09:24,639 ask ask the questions yourself and 3759 02:09:27,990 --> 02:09:26,000 but there's nothing wrong if you just 3760 02:09:30,470 --> 02:09:28,000 want to uh write them down 3761 02:09:31,910 --> 02:09:30,480 in chat and i'll just read them out out 3762 02:09:32,709 --> 02:09:31,920 to the to the guest there's nothing 3763 02:09:34,470 --> 02:09:32,719 wrong with that 3764 02:09:37,109 --> 02:09:34,480 i'm just basically trying to get more 3765 02:09:41,030 --> 02:09:37,119 options for all of you that are 3766 02:09:43,350 --> 02:09:41,040 always you know coming back and liking 3767 02:09:45,589 --> 02:09:43,360 the shows and liking to participate and 3768 02:09:48,229 --> 02:09:45,599 watch 3769 02:09:49,270 --> 02:09:48,239 but yeah if uh and if you really want to 3770 02:09:51,510 --> 02:09:49,280 to help 3771 02:09:53,270 --> 02:09:51,520 um you know it would help a great deal 3772 02:09:55,669 --> 02:09:53,280 if you just subscribed and 3773 02:09:56,310 --> 02:09:55,679 liked or disliked you know whatever 3774 02:09:59,350 --> 02:09:56,320 whatever 3775 02:10:01,750 --> 02:09:59,360 you know uh you decide to any of these 3776 02:10:02,790 --> 02:10:01,760 shows or share them with friends because 3777 02:10:04,310 --> 02:10:02,800 the more people 3778 02:10:06,470 --> 02:10:04,320 learn about it they might find it 3779 02:10:08,069 --> 02:10:06,480 interesting and then they would you know 3780 02:10:11,030 --> 02:10:08,079 we'll have that many more people 3781 02:10:12,310 --> 02:10:11,040 joining and watching and listening um 3782 02:10:14,950 --> 02:10:12,320 because 3783 02:10:16,229 --> 02:10:14,960 at the end of the day i do enjoy 3784 02:10:17,910 --> 02:10:16,239 spending all this time 3785 02:10:20,069 --> 02:10:17,920 with with you guys even though i can't 3786 02:10:23,030 --> 02:10:20,079 see you but i read your comments and 3787 02:10:23,669 --> 02:10:23,040 i get to talk to you on on telegram but 3788 02:10:26,310 --> 02:10:23,679 uh 3789 02:10:28,069 --> 02:10:26,320 of course with everyone that has ever 3790 02:10:30,069 --> 02:10:28,079 started an endeavor of course i wanted 3791 02:10:31,830 --> 02:10:30,079 to grow and become bigger and better and 3792 02:10:35,750 --> 02:10:31,840 and offer more options 3793 02:10:36,790 --> 02:10:35,760 so if you enjoy it it would be great 3794 02:10:39,830 --> 02:10:36,800 help if you could 3795 02:10:41,189 --> 02:10:39,840 simply simply share it and of course if 3796 02:10:43,430 --> 02:10:41,199 you know you can also support the 3797 02:10:45,669 --> 02:10:43,440 channel if you you know have 3798 02:10:46,790 --> 02:10:45,679 some silly shirts i made a while back 3799 02:10:50,149 --> 02:10:46,800 about different kind 3800 02:10:50,870 --> 02:10:50,159 you know different kind of uh graphics 3801 02:10:53,350 --> 02:10:50,880 and then a 3802 02:10:54,790 --> 02:10:53,360 larger alien on the cup like this or 3803 02:10:56,790 --> 02:10:54,800 anything like that so if you want to 3804 02:10:58,470 --> 02:10:56,800 have something that you can use at the 3805 02:11:00,470 --> 02:10:58,480 same time support the channel 3806 02:11:01,669 --> 02:11:00,480 it will be greatly appreciated yeah i 3807 02:11:03,669 --> 02:11:01,679 never or 3808 02:11:05,830 --> 02:11:03,679 hardly ever really bring it up but i 3809 02:11:08,390 --> 02:11:05,840 figured um you know if it's 3810 02:11:09,350 --> 02:11:08,400 something that that you would want to 3811 02:11:14,709 --> 02:11:09,360 partake in 3812 02:11:19,589 --> 02:11:17,669 okay i'm not i'm not seeing any more any 3813 02:11:22,229 --> 02:11:19,599 other questions and i think 3814 02:11:23,990 --> 02:11:22,239 we covered a great deal nathan i'm 3815 02:11:27,830 --> 02:11:24,000 thinking about just uh closing 3816 02:11:31,510 --> 02:11:27,840 out the stream and uh um 3817 02:11:33,589 --> 02:11:31,520 seeing oh there was one question about 3818 02:11:35,910 --> 02:11:33,599 i think fabrizia asked about having 3819 02:11:39,910 --> 02:11:35,920 somebody that covers crop circles 3820 02:11:41,750 --> 02:11:39,920 and um the issue 3821 02:11:43,189 --> 02:11:41,760 is the one particular person that was 3822 02:11:45,990 --> 02:11:43,199 very well known 3823 02:11:48,470 --> 02:11:46,000 she's not doing public speaking anymore 3824 02:11:51,430 --> 02:11:48,480 the other person that i would like to 3825 02:11:52,229 --> 02:11:51,440 excuse me gotta get in touch with um i 3826 02:11:54,310 --> 02:11:52,239 think she's 3827 02:11:56,069 --> 02:11:54,320 really getting up there in ages not too 3828 02:11:57,589 --> 02:11:56,079 savvy with technology 3829 02:11:59,189 --> 02:11:57,599 and so i don't know how well that will 3830 02:12:01,669 --> 02:11:59,199 work out having to 3831 02:12:03,510 --> 02:12:01,679 to talk to her in over skype so i'm 3832 02:12:05,910 --> 02:12:03,520 trying to find and look for 3833 02:12:07,510 --> 02:12:05,920 for people that are covering that so i 3834 02:12:08,950 --> 02:12:07,520 can extend an invitation to them and 3835 02:12:11,510 --> 02:12:08,960 have them come on to 3836 02:12:12,790 --> 02:12:11,520 to talk about it either a webcast was 3837 02:12:16,229 --> 02:12:12,800 pre-recorded or 3838 02:12:18,310 --> 02:12:16,239 a live show but i know um hopefully 3839 02:12:21,510 --> 02:12:18,320 coming up this weekend and next 3840 02:12:23,589 --> 02:12:21,520 well this friday and next friday um that 3841 02:12:24,950 --> 02:12:23,599 i've been trying to kind of uh start 3842 02:12:27,910 --> 02:12:24,960 covering more about 3843 02:12:30,069 --> 02:12:27,920 sasquatch and um uh different 3844 02:12:32,870 --> 02:12:30,079 researchers that are in that field 3845 02:12:34,589 --> 02:12:32,880 so that um you know just expanding more 3846 02:12:37,270 --> 02:12:34,599 into the the 3847 02:12:39,189 --> 02:12:37,280 cryptozoology field then there's always 3848 02:12:41,270 --> 02:12:39,199 the the talk and connection 3849 02:12:43,589 --> 02:12:41,280 uh to have some claim between the 3850 02:12:46,709 --> 02:12:43,599 sasquatch people and 3851 02:12:47,990 --> 02:12:46,719 ets and all of that can be discussed so 3852 02:12:51,669 --> 02:12:48,000 i would like to get somebody 3853 02:12:54,149 --> 02:12:51,679 on regarding that actually 3854 02:12:55,189 --> 02:12:54,159 let me see here because i've been 3855 02:12:59,350 --> 02:12:55,199 waiting 3856 02:13:03,669 --> 02:13:02,950 um actually you get to watch me confirm 3857 02:13:09,589 --> 02:13:03,679 it live 3858 02:13:09,599 --> 02:13:15,830 okay 3859 02:13:19,030 --> 02:13:17,270 all right it looks like i have a 3860 02:13:21,669 --> 02:13:19,040 confirmed guest 3861 02:13:23,589 --> 02:13:21,679 for friday if i'm not mistaken don't 3862 02:13:25,270 --> 02:13:23,599 hold me to it i will create a stream but 3863 02:13:29,350 --> 02:13:25,280 it's going to be um 3864 02:13:33,189 --> 02:13:29,360 cindy carter and she 3865 02:13:36,390 --> 02:13:33,199 she also uh i believe written some books 3866 02:13:38,310 --> 02:13:36,400 and is researching uh sasquatch so 3867 02:13:39,589 --> 02:13:38,320 it'll be exciting to see what she has to 3868 02:13:42,310 --> 02:13:39,599 talk about and and 3869 02:13:43,589 --> 02:13:42,320 um cover on friday it's usually on 3870 02:13:46,629 --> 02:13:43,599 friday at 7 00 pm 3871 02:13:47,669 --> 02:13:46,639 central time open lines are always 3872 02:13:50,069 --> 02:13:47,679 wednesdays 3873 02:13:52,310 --> 02:13:50,079 and if i manage to get a webcast and a 3874 02:13:53,589 --> 02:13:52,320 pre-recorded interview to do it sometime 3875 02:13:56,229 --> 02:13:53,599 during that week and 3876 02:13:58,149 --> 02:13:56,239 put it out there but for now with all 3877 02:14:00,069 --> 02:13:58,159 the things going on this all i've been 3878 02:14:03,510 --> 02:14:00,079 able to to manage is 3879 02:14:05,830 --> 02:14:03,520 wednesday open open lines and friday um 3880 02:14:07,910 --> 02:14:05,840 just a live show and i'll just keep that 3881 02:14:09,910 --> 02:14:07,920 going for sure 3882 02:14:11,510 --> 02:14:09,920 hopefully i don't ever have to cancel 3883 02:14:12,950 --> 02:14:11,520 fridays but i'm sure 3884 02:14:14,790 --> 02:14:12,960 something might come up where i might 3885 02:14:15,910 --> 02:14:14,800 have to and 3886 02:14:18,950 --> 02:14:15,920 i hope you're not going to hold that 3887 02:14:21,910 --> 02:14:18,960 against me if that ever happens 3888 02:14:22,629 --> 02:14:21,920 okay well nathan um goodbye my friend i 3889 02:14:25,350 --> 02:14:22,639 just want to 3890 02:14:27,350 --> 02:14:25,360 officially say bye to you now and thank 3891 02:14:30,390 --> 02:14:27,360 you again for participating and 3892 02:14:31,270 --> 02:14:30,400 and uh talking to me and uh everyone 3893 02:14:34,310 --> 02:14:31,280 else watching 3894 02:14:35,990 --> 02:14:34,320 i thank you very much for being here and 3895 02:14:38,069 --> 02:14:36,000 um i know the show has been a bit 3896 02:14:40,390 --> 02:14:38,079 different than than usual but i promise 3897 02:14:43,430 --> 02:14:40,400 we'll get back to our 3898 02:14:45,669 --> 02:14:43,440 normal ufo talk as always 3899 02:14:47,189 --> 02:14:45,679 but then again we're not limited if 3900 02:14:48,629 --> 02:14:47,199 there's something that you call about 3901 02:14:49,669 --> 02:14:48,639 and are passionate about and would like 3902 02:14:52,709 --> 02:14:49,679 to talk about 3903 02:14:53,990 --> 02:14:52,719 feel free to do so so have a good day 3904 02:14:56,390 --> 02:14:54,000 have a good night wherever you 3905 02:14:58,229 --> 02:14:56,400 are thanks again for tuning in and